Ojc
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6254833.stm
Do they not understand, these stupid fcuking ministers that some people just DON'T want to be at school any longer, I could not wait to get out of school and start earning some money.
At 18 your an adult, you cannot seriously expect 18 year olds to stay at school and unable to leave!
I'm just thinking about myself, if I was told I could not leave school and had to stay until I was 18 I would have laughed in their faces, I was earning decent money for my age back then.
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Colin
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I wish id left earlier, 16 is a good age to leave school to work!!
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MatthewR
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i think it has its flipsides too mate - most 16 year old these days arent brought up like we were olly - most of them need to stay beyond the age of sixteen to achieve what they need to get a half decent job - i think they shud be judged on tere GCSE results and if they fall below a level then they have to stay
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Robin
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Alan Johnson said - "I regret not staying on in education... when I left school there were loads of jobs you could could walk into without qualifications. That's not going to be the case in the future."
Bollocks.
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Colin
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Although I can see it helping get the chav fuckwits off the streets that leave school not wanting to work, quite happy to sit around on the dole endulging in drink drugs & fags all day!!
Or CS in Robins case 
Sorry Bob
[Edited on 12-01-2007 by Colin]
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Matthew is right. Without trying to sound old, kids of today need be fcuking educated. If this means they have to stay in school another 2 years, I'm all up for that.
I haven't opened the link but would this not be a result of the GCSE results getting lower?
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Robin
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It'll piss businesses off too No more cheap labour.
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Ojc
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This is true Matthew I had not really thought of it that way, my cousin is 16 and there is no way she would do what I done at 16, go and work in a office of 25-60 year olds answering phones to Financial advisors and helping them with queries, infact I find that amusing.
No chance.
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antscorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by MatthewR
i think it has its flipsides too mate - most 16 year old these days arent brought up like we were olly - most of them need to stay beyond the age of sixteen to achieve what they need to get a half decent job - i think they shud be judged on tere GCSE results and if they fall below a level then they have to stay
damm right, when i was at school i felt sorry for all the dumb tits acting up in class. half them wernt dumb they just coudlnt be arsed to work as they thought it was cool to be like that.
should do it like the americans and hold people back years if they fail to produce at that level.
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RyanSxi
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i think it's a good idea. get more people educated etc. less people on the dole as people who want to learn a trade can do it in school time. then leave into a job. i don't see a problem?
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RyanSxi
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quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
quote:
Originally posted by MatthewR
i think it has its flipsides too mate - most 16 year old these days arent brought up like we were olly - most of them need to stay beyond the age of sixteen to achieve what they need to get a half decent job - i think they shud be judged on tere GCSE results and if they fall below a level then they have to stay
damm right, when i was at school i felt sorry for all the dumb tits acting up in class. half them wernt dumb they just coudlnt be arsed to work as they thought it was cool to be like that.
should do it like the americans and hold people back years if they fail to produce at that level.
agree with holding people back. they would soon knuckle down when they were sat with children years younger.
although i don't think this is the best way for people who are dyslexic etc
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mattk
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Only certain kids need to stay and be educated, I wanted to be a plumber, during the middle of my last year i was granted my apprenticeship and my place at college, so i sat back and to be honest had a laugh and pissed about ( not the most sensible thing to do) and now 3 years on im still in my apprenticeship with one year left an i earn more for my 40 hour week than my mum does for her 45 hour week. And to be honest plumbing isnt rely a bad job because there is alot of money to be made if your willing to work for it
[Edited on 12-01-2007 by mattk]
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Mark330d
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I left school when i was 14, its not because i couldlnt do the work load its just i didnt agree with the school in general. Im dyspraxic which means my hand and eye co-ordination are bollocks basiccally. So that seriosuly affected my hand writing.
So sometimes i would spend hours writing essays and doing work only for me to get a detention and lines and told to do it again as it was illegible. One or two of the teachers were understanding and let my type up my homework. In public schools if you are dyspraxic you get a laptop to use to type up work but as i was in a private school this wasnt an option. SO i left due to that and the fact i got suspended for not turning up to a rugby match.
After that i went to a public school which was better in the sense that my work didnt get thrown back in my face but i learned between little and fuck all in the short time i was at that school as it was full of disruptive chavs.
Now im still only 15 but im at clydebank college doing mechanics which im learning loads at as ive been into cars since i was about 3. I'll be finished by June and ill be 16 by then aswell and fingers crossed ill be walking into an apprenticeship.
Judging by that article though this wouldnt be accpetable as i would have to stay in college till im 18 which is a load of bollocks frankly. Moving the age up to 18 wont change anything, if people dont want to school/be educated then they wont. And if they get forced to go in then theyll just disrupt other peoples learning.
M.
[Edited on 12-01-2007 by Mark330d]
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mwg
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I would of hated to of had to stay at school till I was 18.
I just wanted to get the hell out of there. Was ready to leave by year 8
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MarkM
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I think its a good idea...
Too many low lifes get away with leaving school and sit on the dole all week without trying to get a job...
My birds brother left his job as he was only earning 200 a month (he only did 8 hours a week)...as on the dole he gets 160 a month...
Makes me sick
[Edited on 12-01-2007 by MarkM]
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Colin
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8hrs a week thats like 1 day a week 
Used to piss me off in my last job, there I was working away & over the fence the local fuckwits were out getting bevvied every day living it up.
I stayed at school until I was 18, wish id left at 16 though if I could have found a trade apprenticeship.....few & far between though. The government would do good by giving companies incentives to take on school leavers at apprentices cos theres hardly fuck all around these days!!
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IvIarkgraham
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i dont agree with it either
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MarkM
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
8hrs a week thats like 1 day a week
Used to piss me off in my last job, there I was working away & over the fence the local fuckwits were out getting bevvied every day living it up.
I stayed at school until I was 18, wish id left at 16 though if I could have found a trade apprenticeship.....few & far between though. The government would do good by giving companies incentives to take on school leavers at apprentices cos theres hardly fuck all around these days!!
Yes my argument exactly...why is he only working 8 hours a week? Fuck knows...
He doesnt do anything apart from piss his money up against the wall and sleep in till 3pm everyday...
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Planty02
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The problem with this scheme is that the lazy sods who cant be arsed to get jobs or training or education after school will have been expelled by the age of 16 anyway and just sitting around at home
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Rob_Quads
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I think its all a waste of time. IMO There are 3 types of people when it comes to ending school at 16
a) Those who carry on to a higher level for what ever reason : This law will not affect them
b) Those who leave school and go and get a job and join the real world : It will be interesting to see if employers try and scam this now instead, especially if they can get money for training the kids i.e. personally I can't see the student being better off. If they want to learn there are apprentice jobs out there already
c) The ones who don't want to learn. A high % of these are a nusance to those who want to learn OR they just don't bother and don't turn up : Keeping them at school/learning another 2 years is not going to do any good its just going to piss them off even more and they will just skip even more lessons so the school & businesses will have to invest money for them just to waste it.
...some other thoughts.....
A much easier way to solve this would be to just say you can't sign on until your 18. Job done. If you want money go learn and get a job.
[they may be doing this but i have not heard anything about this side of it]
We should generally not house people unless they are happy to work. If you don't want to work then tuff - sort yourself out.
[Edited on 12-01-2007 by Rob_Quads]
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MarkM
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I truely beleive dole should be stopped after 6 months unless a person has a medical reason why they can not work...
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Rob_Quads
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I agree 100% - If they can't find a job after 6 months they don't 'want' to work its not they can't work [bar health etc reasons] and so why the fuck should I pay for them
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You wouldn't be doing typical school work from what I have been told. You would be getting qualifications by doing apprenticeships and other similar things like that. Either way I see it as a but if a fuck up though.
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