lil_g
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How much extra compression would the standard internals on a X14/X16 be able to take... In the form of boost (turbo)
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AK
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if you are at all serious....fit lower compression pistons.
a turbo running at 4-6psi is just shite
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Hamish
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As AK says, it would have to be a low boost application, which tbh isnt realli worth it in my eyes.
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Dean_W
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Low comp pistons can be had for about £500.
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Superlite Ltd.
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quote:
Originally posted by lil_g04
How much extra compression would the standard internals on a X14/X16 be able to take... In the form of boost (turbo)
Not alot
I'd say about 4psi if that TBH
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Ste L
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low comp piston's here :-
http://mvaux.com/forged_pistons.htm
turbo kit here :-
http://mvaux.com/turbo_kits_for_nova_and_corsa.htm
333bhp X16XE engine :-
http://mvaux.com/x16xe350bhp.htm
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Fro
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Gregg make your mind up 
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Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
low comp piston's here :-
http://mvaux.com/forged_pistons.htm
turbo kit here :-
http://mvaux.com/turbo_kits_for_nova_and_corsa.htm
333bhp X16XE engine :-
http://mvaux.com/x16xe350bhp.htm
ive red on mig that the fitting of those kits isnt that great and you need to bodge stuff together etc etc to get it to work.
And tbh your gunna need a little more than pistons and a turbo to run 350bhp reliably
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lil_g
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Fro - shh 
I've been studying the Mvaux kit for ages wondering how they could sell you the kit without the forged pistons as this would make such a difference to the running of the kit as a whole!
What compression ratio pistons would you suggest?
and then what engine management would be needed to run it all?
Been looking into this for agess! Thank you everyone for your replies 
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lil_g
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Hamish? Do you have a link for these?
Thanks
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Hamish
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a link for what? As for CR i would say around 8,5:1
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
low comp piston's here :-
http://mvaux.com/forged_pistons.htm
hmm, 81mm pistons in an x16xe is on the limit really.
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Dave A
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and anyone that considers turboing a x16xe to get power must be mad.
I wouldnt do it, for less money you could build a super reliable 200 bhp n/a one. or just fit a c20let.
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lil_g
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What's the major reasons why though Dave?
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Vaux Lad
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Its not just the power gain tho, which will be more than NA imo.
Its the huge torque gain.
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Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
Its the huge torque gain.
until it goes pop 
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Vaux Lad
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It wont go pop if built properly!
Pointless trying to run boost on a standard 16xe, the cr is way too high as standard.
[Edited on 29-08-2007 by Vaux Lad]
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lil_g
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fair enough was only thinking of that in the short run until pistons were bought What would you suggest then mate?
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Hamish
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but then if you do it properly your looking at c20let costs, and you will get more horse power and torque from that
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Steve X16XE
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Plus this graph looks interesting...........
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Vaux Lad
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quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
but then if you do it properly your looking at c20let costs, and you will get more horse power and torque from that
So...
Thats the case with anything.
Anyone who fits a mantzel etc to a 16xe could fit a 20xe engine for the same cost, and get more power.
Hmm, i cant even read what that graph says
[Edited on 29-08-2007 by Vaux Lad]
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lil_g
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 The graph only starts at 4k and theres a huge lump of power 
What ECU could be used for this? c20let costs but totally unique 
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Vaux Lad
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Fully mappable one.
Omex/Dta etc etc.
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