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j_man
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3rd Jan 08 at 01:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

when i come too fitting a new engine too my car

i wanna take on something thats gonna really challenge me and take alot of research and really educate myself bout tuning engines

so i know im gonna need aftermarket manegement and someone too map it all for me

and its gonna be a ballache but i think its acheivable

what do you lot think ???
j_man
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also any links people have got and advice people could give too me

just thinking bout it more than anything at the moment
andyc1234
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best people to speak to about it are Dave A and Broster they both have a couple of the fastest 1.6s around and they are both in the trade so speak to them for bits

[Edited on 03-01-2008 by andyc1234]
j_man
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dont really wanna make anything super fast,
just wanna do it just more for the fun of putting an engine together with parts from other engines......... aswell as something different too do apart fron bodywork

[Edited on 03-01-2008 by j_man]

[Edited on 03-01-2008 by j_man]
andyc1234
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doesnt matter if you want it super fast. they can sort you out with anything you need for it. daves good to chat to for a bit of advide as well. your best bet for a budget set up with bike carbs is probably bogg brothers.
Dave A
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best advice I can give is to use a proper throttle body kit from the start. Bike bodies are a pain and very rarely give the gains a properly designed and developed kit for that paticular engine will.

Kit prices start at £1600 inc vat. bolt on straightforward fit, with an ecu ready loaded up with a base map and minimal wiring to do (4 wires on most applications) We can get this up and running on a standard car in 1 day.
j_man
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i see what you mean been looking into them and it seems too do it on the cheap i'd have too have a lot of knowledge about mapping e.t.c. e.t.c.

cheers dave wont be looking into it just yet but you'll be the first person i speak too when i do
Vaux Lad
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Indeed, "proper" tb's are better.
But so they should be for the extra grand the cost over bike tb's.

The reason most bike tb'd engines dont make the same power as jenvey'd etc engines is down to poor inlet design(as it is a custom job)

Ive seen Mi16 engines make very similar power on bike bodies, as on jenveys.

[Edited on 03-01-2008 by Vaux Lad]
davstar
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As long as you get a decent inlet there is absolutely NO reason why a similar bore bike TB won't make the power of those for car applications.............I have some Yamaha R1 Bike TB's which will be perfect for a 1.6 when I get the time. Will run on DTA management so all good. No way am I paying stupid money for kits out there for car only applications.
Dave A
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as long as the inlet is tuned perfectly and the bike body is tapered in the bore and the manifold and trumpets are matched perfectly with the tb's then they do work well. just never seem to be as good installation and end results wise as a properly designed kit.

and when you cost up the final prices theres not a massive difference in cost.

 
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