Jakey
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Yesterday i came to fit my speakers in my car, jigsawed, screwed etc, undid the old speaker in the plastic bit in the boot, extended the wire and went to wire up the first speaker.
During doing this i noticed my interior light wasnt on (drivers door was open) so i went to investigate. Turn my CD player on, nothing! Then i noticed the MFD wasnt working..
Fiddled with a few thing and it i found the CD player, MFD, horn and hazards didnt work. So i check the fuses and its the hazards one which has gone, put a new one in and it went bang straight away.
Spoke to my boss at work he said there must be a wire touching metal somewhere causing a short earth. Take all the speakers out again, put all the wiring back. Another fuse goes pop.
So i decide to get behind the cd player, low and behold the red wire (live ignition??) is just bare wire, look abit further and theres bits of other wires melted together from it.
Now, it may seem like a daft question but will this be the problem? If so how do i solve it? My mate suggested getting as far back and insulating it all, but the bare wire just goes as far as i can see.
Then he suggested a new dash loom? Is this the best idea?
If so how hard is it to do?
Thanks for reading and hopefully sorting my problems.
Jake
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Kurt
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Jakey
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GTF 
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chunk89
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i reckon a bitch because any work behind the dash is hard unless ur good at taking the whole dash off and putting it back on
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Dan295
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dash loo will be a complete cnut to fit, just tape up the ends of the wires mate, sounds like someone has tried bodging a cd player, in there give us a sec and i will find out what that wire should/is going to
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Kurt
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sell it on to Peter 
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Daveskater
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It would probably be best to put a new dash loom in, but that would be quite hard.
The red wire is the constant power from the battery iirc so that is always powered with whatever the battery is putting out.
Try whacking some electrical tape round it for now and see if it stops blowing fuses.
Numberwang!
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I like you Dave, you are a man of men
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Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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Jakey
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Well me and mate took my dash out of my old Corsa, wasnt to hard, just a ballache getting the steering wheel off!
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Jakey
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The thing is the wiring loom starts going around the back of the steering column where its still melted so id have to remove the dash anyways
What kind of wire would i use if say i just could the old crap one of and put my own in?
[Edited on 18-06-2008 by Jakey]
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Daveskater
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Take it off tomorrow or at the weekend then when you have proper daylight to work with, and tape up the wires, then see if it's any better.
Disconnect the battery before doing anything though. If you're not going to use the car then it may even be best disconnecting it until it's fixed so you don't have more fuses to replace, but I don't know if that will affect any of the electrical systems, possibly resetting one or more of them.
Numberwang!
Originally posted by AlunJ
I like you Dave, you are a man of men
Originally Whatapp'd by Neo
Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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Jakey
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I dont REALLY need the car untill saturday morning and have all day tomorrow and friday until 4 to work on the car..
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Dan295
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fuse 1 the 20a is coming straight from the fuse, so its shorted on the bodywork creating a short, it should be in the back of the radio player, dig up the manual from the cd player and see if you can find out where the fuse connection goes and put the red wire in there, otherwise you can overload your cd player with no protection
[Edited on 18-06-2008 by Dan295]
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Jakey
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So somewhere behind the dash the bare wire is touching bodywork..
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Dan295
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poss touching something metallic like the cd player cage, as that is what it would earth on
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Daveskater
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That bit where the original radio bracket screws onto has slightly sharp edges round the back, it could be possible that it's rubbed on there when the car bounces etc and worn away the insulation.
Or there's something living behind your dash that's chewing on your wires 
Numberwang!
Originally posted by AlunJ
I like you Dave, you are a man of men
Originally Whatapp'd by Neo
Dave's maybe capable of a drive-by cuddle
Look at my pictures
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dopydanny08
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just take the dash out and sort it out properly n put it all back together anit as hard as people say to change the dash loom took me 30 mins to take a dash out change the loom n put the dash bak in
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Jakey
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The only problem we had taking my old dash out was we couldnt get the steering wheel off without a long bar 
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pow
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We talk, MSN, hmmnyess?
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Kurt
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quote:
Originally posted by Jakey
The only problem we had taking my old dash out was we couldnt get the steering wheel off without a long bar
undo the nut to the last few threads and then give it a few good pulls.. make sure the nut is on enough otherwise a trip to the dentists will be in order 
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pow
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quote:
Originally posted by Kurt
quote:
Originally posted by Jakey
The only problem we had taking my old dash out was we couldnt get the steering wheel off without a long bar
undo the nut to the last few threads and then give it a few good pulls.. make sure the nut is on enough otherwise a trip to the dentists will be in order
Warren G style
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dopydanny08
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found a gd way to do it and works straight away after spending 2 hours trying to get 1 off we tied a tow rope round the bk of it n thn threw the steering wheel joined to another tow rope n hoocked it to a car n slowy gave it a nice tug n came straight off first time took 5 mins haha spent 2 hours b4 wacking n pulling n gettin very stressed at it
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Dan295
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are you fucking serious
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