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Author Redtop or 1.6 16v on Throttlebodies?
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Originally posted by Robin
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by jmdsouth
does anybody know with a proper set up what sort of bhp a 2ltr redtop with tb's would achieve is it close to a c20let??


200ish on a standard block/head, as proven by mattb

[Edited on 04-01-2009 by jr]


With cams though.


matts engine was completly standard iirc, had the omex/jeveys and verniers

give and take on rr figers obviously
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Blimey, did well there then
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exhaust manifold will make a big difference, a 20xe should see around 200BHP with mild cams an sbd type c and throttle bodies.

mine made 185 with hi torque cams(very average) a type A manifold and DTH bodies. i made mine weigh only 850kg to now i just need to get it started again.....

[Edited on 05-01-2009 by Ant]
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I feel im not going to get mine started...seen the snow outside!
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small block on tb's for me also as that's what i wan to do anyone selling any with managment
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I'd go for the 1.6 just for the noise really However you can't really argue with the bhp per pound that the XE gives.
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What would a saxo vts on tb's be like?

Decent?

I could plough so much money into my vts but I think id rather have a vauxhall lol just wondered what they are like?

I would look on saxp but the site sucks balls
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VTS on TB will be better than XE on TB TBH BBQ IMO AFAIK
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VTS on TB will be better than XE on TB


Why?
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I've seen them being used, I know of a lad with a realiable 180bhp VTS and it runs 13 second quarter miles and is an absolute weapon on track, factor in that it handles well out of the box.

I wouldn't own one, but if you had the two cars staring you in the face and weren't biased at all you would buy the Saxo to start with wouldn't you?
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I've seen them being used, I know of a lad with a realiable 180bhp VTS and it runs 13 second quarter miles and is an absolute weapon on track, factor in that it handles well out of the box.

I wouldn't own one, but if you had the two cars staring you in the face and weren't biased at all you would buy the Saxo to start with wouldn't you?


No. Purely because I just dont like the car tbh. Who was the kid you know? As i know of someone with exactly the same engine and power.
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quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
What would a saxo vts on tb's be like?

Decent?

I could plough so much money into my vts but I think id rather have a vauxhall lol just wondered what they are like?

I would look on saxp but the site sucks balls


If you put a decent amount of money into:

4-2-1 Manifold
Cams
Decat exhaust system
Throttle bodies/management

You're talking an easy 180+bhp. That would absolutely tank a tb'd XE. In a straight line it'll be just as quick if not quicker, and MUCH better handling. As Ollie said, that would be a weapon.
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...or you could save up and buy a gumpert and rape everything ever made ever.
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
What would a saxo vts on tb's be like?

Decent?

I could plough so much money into my vts but I think id rather have a vauxhall lol just wondered what they are like?

I would look on saxp but the site sucks balls


If you put a decent amount of money into:

4-2-1 Manifold
Cams
Decat exhaust system
Throttle bodies/management

You're talking an easy 180+bhp. That would absolutely tank a tb'd XE. In a straight line it'll be just as quick if not quicker, and MUCH better handling. As Ollie said, that would be a weapon.


Yes but every twat in the world has a 106 or paxo

Plus 180bhp, you can get that from a smallblack corsa on tb's
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Originally posted by Ojc
I've seen them being used, I know of a lad with a realiable 180bhp VTS and it runs 13 second quarter miles and is an absolute weapon on track, factor in that it handles well out of the box.

I wouldn't own one, but if you had the two cars staring you in the face and weren't biased at all you would buy the Saxo to start with wouldn't you?


No. Purely because I just dont like the car tbh. Who was the kid you know? As i know of someone with exactly the same engine and power.


Bloke around here somewhere, Paul J knows him as well.
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Can Of Worms!

IMO and its going to be down to that! Your Opinion!

XE
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quote:
Originally posted by richard_cooper
quote:
Originally posted by Eck
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Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
What would a saxo vts on tb's be like?

Decent?

I could plough so much money into my vts but I think id rather have a vauxhall lol just wondered what they are like?

I would look on saxp but the site sucks balls


If you put a decent amount of money into:

4-2-1 Manifold
Cams
Decat exhaust system
Throttle bodies/management

You're talking an easy 180+bhp. That would absolutely tank a tb'd XE. In a straight line it'll be just as quick if not quicker, and MUCH better handling. As Ollie said, that would be a weapon.


Yes but every twat in the world has a 106 or paxo

Plus 180bhp, you can get that from a smallblack corsa on tb's


The same can be said about Corsas for everone owning them

That is true, but for ease of power the VTS is better than a smallblock Corsa. And if you're talking about a 1.8, he also has to do the conversion, not on his Saxo
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
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Originally posted by richard_cooper
quote:
Originally posted by Eck
quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
What would a saxo vts on tb's be like?

Decent?

I could plough so much money into my vts but I think id rather have a vauxhall lol just wondered what they are like?

I would look on saxp but the site sucks balls


If you put a decent amount of money into:

4-2-1 Manifold
Cams
Decat exhaust system
Throttle bodies/management

You're talking an easy 180+bhp. That would absolutely tank a tb'd XE. In a straight line it'll be just as quick if not quicker, and MUCH better handling. As Ollie said, that would be a weapon.


Yes but every twat in the world has a 106 or paxo

Plus 180bhp, you can get that from a smallblack corsa on tb's


The same can be said about Corsas for everone owning them

That is true, but for ease of power the VTS is better than a smallblock Corsa. And if you're talking about a 1.8, he also has to do the conversion, not on his Saxo


I know it may be easyer on a VTS/GTI. Thats why im thinking of selling my 1600 and getting one.

And yes i was talking about the 1600 engine and not the 1800
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id rather i smallblock anyday 1.4 on tb's

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