mad_mike252
Member
Registered: 15th Nov 07
Location: Nottinghamshire
User status: Offline
|
Just found something on another site so thought i would put it on here.
On the subject of global warming im not really that bothered if im honest but read this and i found it quite interesting strangely enough.
Its by the leg-end David bellamy.
"When I first stuck my head above the parapet to say I didn’t believe what we were being told about global warming I had no idea what the consequences would be.
I am a scientist and I have to follow the directions of science but when I see that the truth is being covered up I have to voice my opinions.
According to official data, in every year since 1998 world temperatures have been getting colder, and in 2002 Arctic ice actually increased. Why, then, do we not hear about that?
The sad fact is that since I said I didn’t believe human beings caused global warming I’ve not been allowed to make a TV programme.
My absence has been noticed, because wherever I go I meet people who say: “I grew up with you on the television, where are you now?”
It was in 1996 that I criticised wind farms while appearing on Blue Peter and I also had an article published in which I described global warming as poppyc*ck.
The truth is, I didn’t think wind farms were an effective means of alternative energy so I said so. Back then, at the BBC you had to toe the line and I wasn’t doing that.
At that point I was still making loads of television programmes and I was enjoying it greatly. Then I suddenly found I was sending in ideas for TV shows and they weren’t getting taken up. I’ve asked around about why I’ve been ignored but I found that people didn’t get back to me.
CAMPAIGNER: Bellamy says we must stop destroying tropical rainforests
At the beginning of this year there was a BBC show with four experts saying: “This is going to be the end of all the ice in the Arctic,” and hypothesising that it was going to be the hottest summer ever. Was it hell! It was very cold and very wet and now we’ve seen evidence that the glaciers in Alaska have started growing rapidly – and they’ve not grown for a long time.
I’ve seen evidence, which I believe, that says there has not been a rise in global temperature since 1998, despite the increase in carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere. This makes me think the global warmers are telling lies – carbon dioxide is not the driver.
The idiot fringe have accused me of being like a Holocaust denier, which is ludicrous. Climate change is all about cycles, it’s a natural thing and has always happened. When the Romans lived in Britain they were growing very good red grapes and making wine on the borders of Scotland. It was evidently a lot warmer.
If you were sitting next to me 10,000 years ago we’d be under ice. So thank God for global warming for ending that ice age; we wouldn’t be here otherwise.
People such as former American Vice-President Al Gore say that millions of us will die because of global warming – which I think is a pretty stupid thing to say if you’ve got no proof.
And my opinion is that there is absolutely no proof that carbon dioxide is anything to do with any impending catastrophe. The science has, quite simply, gone awry. In fact, it’s not even science any more, it’s anti-science.
There’s no proof, it’s just projections and if you look at the models people such as Gore use, you can see they cherry pick the ones that support their beliefs.
To date, the way the so-called Greens and the BBC, the Royal Society and even our political parties have handled this smacks of McCarthyism at its worst.
Global warming is part of a natural cycle and there’s nothing we can actually do to stop these cycles. The world is now facing spending a vast amount of money in tax to try to solve a problem that doesn’t actually exist.
And how were we convinced that this problem exists, even though all the evidence from measurements goes against the fact? God knows. Yes, the lakes in Africa are drying up. But that’s not global warming. They’re drying up for the very simple reason that most of them have dams around them.
So the water that used to be used by local people is now used in the production of cut flowers and vegetables for the supermarkets of Europe.
One of Al Gore’s biggest clangers was saying that the Aral Sea in Uzbekistan was drying up because of global warming. Well, everyone knows, because it was all over the news 20 years ago, that the Russians were growing cotton there at the time and that for every ton of cotton you produce you use a vast amount of water.
The thing that annoys me most is that there are genuine environmental problems that desperately require attention. I’m still an environmentalist, I’m still a Green and I’m still campaigning to stop the destruction of the biodiversity of the world. But money will be wasted on trying to solve this global warming “problem” that I would much rather was used for looking after the people of the world.
Being ignored by the likes of the BBC does not really bother me, not when there are much bigger problems at stake.
I might not be on TV any more but I still go around the world campaigning about these important issues. For example, we must stop the destruction of tropical rainforests, something I’ve been saying for 35 years.
Mother nature will balance things out but not if we interfere by destroying rainforests and overfishing the seas.
That is where the real environmental catastrophe could occur
|
mattk
Member
Registered: 27th Feb 06
Location: St. Helens
User status: Offline
|
its a conspiracy imo, all those millions of years ago we had an Ice age, then suddenly the planet warmed up, as it does every now and again and the ice melted,
what caused the planet to warm and the ice to melt, no cars or jet engines in them days?
[Edited on 18-01-2009 by mattk]
|
Whittie
Member
Registered: 11th Aug 06
Location: North Wales Drives: BMW, Corsa & Fiat
User status: Offline
|
Terrorists 
|
XSIHardy
Member
Registered: 5th Feb 08
User status: Offline
|
we must be doing some thing tho...
were dose all the gas go?
|
Mike
Organiser: North West and North Wales
Premium Member
Registered: 20th May 06
Location: nr. Skipton, North Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by XSIHardy
we must be doing some thing tho...
were dose all the gas go?
I read some study a while ago that said 98% of 'greenhouse gases' were natural, only 2% were caused by humans, I can live with that 
I find it funny when they talk about our children and our children's children being effected by it, so? That's their luck out
|
ssj_kakarot
Member
Registered: 29th Apr 03
Location: hartlepool
User status: Offline
|
all a crock o shit desinged to extract even more money from us really.
|
Hammer
Member
Registered: 11th Feb 04
User status: Offline
|
I'm with Craig Bellamy on this one.
|
sand-eel
Member
Registered: 15th Mar 07
Location: carluke/braidwood--IRNBRULAND
User status: Offline
|
The climate will change, we just speed up the process very slightly.
This is why I don't care at all.
|
Wrighty
Member
Registered: 28th Feb 04
Location: Howden
User status: Offline
|
the planet warms up and cools down anyway..wasnt there something know as the ice age? wonder what they did about global cooling 
|
Jake
Member
Registered: 24th Jan 05
User status: Offline
|
i also read that if it were for the greenhouse gases the world would be too cold to survive in
|
Paul_J
Member
Registered: 6th Jun 02
Location: London
User status: Offline
|
I'm not reading all that...
But, I think it is bullshit.
Basically, the world's temperatures and Co2 levels Generally rise and fall naturally. If you find the graph that shows the earth's temperatures over the last 600,000 years or so (I've got the pic on my camera), you'll notice it spikes up really high (higher than currently) about every 200,000 years or so.
If you look at the pattern of this graph you'll notice, our current 'heat wave / global warming' is spot on for the latest cycle of the warming, although we're currently far colder than some of the previous spikes.
The other joke is when people claim we're melting the glaciers, and prove this by showing the glaciers shrinking / ice melting.
Generally glaciers grow and shrink all the time, it's once again part of their natural cycles! It's just you are only ever shown them melting / falling apart and never the other way.
Finally, if you look at our Co2 output, and look at the rise in temperatures, you'll notice they don't actually go hand in hand.
Bottom line is. 'Being Green' not only helps you look good, but can make you lots of money in the process!
|
Paul_J
Member
Registered: 6th Jun 02
Location: London
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by XSIHardy
we must be doing some thing tho...
were dose all the gas go?
Well co2 is absorbed by Trees and plants and released as Oxygen... we breathing and burn oxygen and release Co2... round and round and round.
|
Huwsi
Member
Registered: 27th Apr 07
Location: Bangor, Gwynedd
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
all a crock o shit desinged to extract even more money from us really.
|
Jay
Member
Registered: 26th Sep 04
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
I'm with Craig Bellamy on this one.
Is he not a footballer 
|
dannymccann
Member
Registered: 9th Aug 06
Location: Doddington, Lincolnshire
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by JayM
quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
I'm with Craig Bellamy on this one.
Is he not a footballer
I think that was the joke
edit - and yea I agree with the opinions of the original post. Similar story for the economic cycle we are in atm - it always happens, its just our meddling is making it bigger, longer and worse every time
[Edited on 19-01-2009 by dannymccann]
|
daymoon
Premium Member
Registered: 1st Aug 08
Location: Selby, North Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
i think all this Global Warming thing is just another way for goverents to make more money in taxes (for example in the UK cars with bigger emissions get charged a lot more in road tax)
When i had me GCSE's, Biology teacher has shown as a graph of CO2 in the atmosphere. it was going up and down... actually we were talking about global warming..
I asked, how can Co2 be cousing this global warming if it going up and down all the time??? the answer was "its irrelevant"
i went wtf????
|
Tiesto
Member
Registered: 6th Jun 02
Location: Hinckley, Leicestershire
User status: Offline
|
Dont believe in man made global warming personally.
But, we still need to be less wasteful. e.g. by not cutting down so many tree's, which absorb the co2 etc.
|
