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moka
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My 1.4 sport will sometimes not start first time (normally when its been left for 12+ hours), if it doesnt start first time it will always start 2nd time and theres always a strong smell of petrol once its started for a good 30 seconds. Can someone tell me what could be wrong? Im a bit worried about it as ive not had it too long.


[Edited on 11-07-2009 by moka]
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anyone?
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Also everytime i boot it on a motorway i get the EML come on for about 2-3 seconds then go off every... 5-10mins?
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11th Jul 09 at 12:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Find out what fault code you have on the eml, possible coilpack problem on the poor starting but could also be lots of other reasons.
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How much does it cost to have the eml read?
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Can do it your self on sports check the tutorials section, im having the same problem with my 12v but without the EML.
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Paperclip test right? I thought the eml has to stay on for that to work?
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quote:
Originally posted by moka
Paperclip test right? I thought the eml has to stay on for that to work?


No, should still be in the ECUs memory I think.
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hmmm dnt know why i thought that then ! Cheers im looking for a paperclip now.
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ok my code is 10 flashes, pause, 1 flash, pause, 3 flashes.

Its a 97 Corsa B 1.4 16v Sport.

Can someone tell me what the problem is please?
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http://www.topbuzz1.carenthusiasts.co.uk/info/fault_codes/fault_codes.htm#gm

You need GM-Multec

and as far as I can see its 13 Oxygen sensor No change in voltage/open circuit.
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Harrisp thats what i thought? BUT..

I have read through the instructions on how to read the code but could not work it out. I have 10 flashes? Then 1 then 3.... That does not make sense for my ecu? I must be reading it wrong?
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I think the first 10 is unrelated and the 1 is your first digit and 3 is your second digit of the code.


Its been a while since I did one though so cant really remember


Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Cheers Gavin, would that explain my symptoms?

What other symptoms might i notice with this fault?
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These things easy to fit?
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I supose it could do. If the car cannot read the amount of oxygen present it may just be stuffing more and more fuel in there.


iirc the oxygen sensor is on the exhaust manifold


Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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is it an easy thing to do or should i take it to the garage?
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If it is your lambda at fault then its a DIY job a bit fiddly to get at but possible.
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anyone got a picture of the thing so i know where im looking
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also have you had a new fuel pump or tank bin opend? becuse if the rubber seal isnt in rite air getts in the tank ans causes a air lock.. jus done this on another corsa for somone with the same problems

 
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