Whittie
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Registered: 11th Aug 06
Location: North Wales Drives: BMW, Corsa & Fiat
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The horrible little wankers paypal are testing my patience this week 
Had a message on my paypal from last night;
Important message about your account. From now on, money you receive will be temporarily held in a pending balance. To learn more, please read our funds availability policy.
Such a fucked up system now, 1 in 10 always forget to leave feedback, so from now on sellers are going to have to wait 21 days for the funds to clear?
Who does this affect?
We’ll set aside payments to sellers whose customers have filed a dispute or chargeback. There are a number of other reasons why we may put your payments into a pending balance. Here are some examples:
* You have been selling on eBay for less than 90 days
* You have an eBay feedback score fewer than 100 and have not yet established a record of good performance
* You have received fewer than 20 Detatiled Seller Ratings on eBay in the last 12 months or your eBay seller performance is below standard
* You have a high rate of customer disputes or a low eBay feedback percentage
* You have been a PayPal member for less than 6 months and have limited selling activity
* You have a sudden change in selling activities (e.g. suddenly selling expensive items, selling large numbers of items, etc.)
* You happen to be selling in a high risk category such as tickets, travel, gift vouchers, computers, electronics, mobile phones, etc.
Depending on the circumstances, we may set aside payments for a single transaction or for all payments to sellers who meet the criteria above.
When does the payment get released?
The funds in your pending balance will typically be released 21 days after payment. The funds may be released early if we can determine that the transaction has been fulfilled and your customers are satisfied (for example, your buyer leaves positive feedback for eBay items).
Who else really, really hate paypal? I wish it was how it was 5 years ago, the buyer protection on eBay now is a joke, the seller can be honest as they like, and still get punished for it.
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Brett
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Registered: 16th Dec 02
Location: Manchester
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Same happened to me but not a lot you can do if you want to use the service. Just ensure you send recorded and enter the postage tracker number into paypal asap.
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Brett
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Registered: 16th Dec 02
Location: Manchester
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....saying that, even then I had to message the cunts to release the money, otherwise they were gonna make me wait til they left feedback, and some people never do 
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Twiggy
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Registered: 15th Oct 04
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I had this on the Mrs account. Just sacked it off and used mine now...
When its eventually come through close and start a new acct
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DannyB
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Registered: 6th Feb 08
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Far too much hassle now, so glad I stopped selling on there when I did.
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Whittie
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Registered: 11th Aug 06
Location: North Wales Drives: BMW, Corsa & Fiat
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[NO] * You have been selling on eBay for less than 90 days -
[YES]* You have an eBay feedback score fewer than 100 and have not yet established a record of good performance
[YES]* You have received fewer than 20 Detatiled Seller Ratings on eBay in the last 12 months or your eBay seller performance is below standard
[NO]* You have a high rate of customer disputes or a low eBay feedback percentage
[NO]* You have been a PayPal member for less than 6 months and have limited selling activity
[YES]* You have a sudden change in selling activities (e.g. suddenly selling expensive items, selling large numbers of items, etc.)
[YES]* You happen to be selling in a high risk category such as tickets, travel, gift vouchers, computers, electronics, mobile phones, etc.
"Sudden change in activities" - When will that cancel itself out? I've gone from one or two things a week, to 60 yesterday, and now i can't put anymore on there because of some limit!
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Gary
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Registered: 22nd Nov 06
Location: West Yorkshire
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I had this too. Had to wait 2 month for it to be removed.
Hate paypal.
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Whittie
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Registered: 11th Aug 06
Location: North Wales Drives: BMW, Corsa & Fiat
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If paypal was a person, i'd kick the fuck out of them.
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DaveyLC
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Registered: 8th Oct 08
Location: Berkshire
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Paypal takes the piss but what makes me sick as a pig is the fact you MUST list ebay auctions with a paypal option even if its a collection only item!
MOTHER FUCKERS!
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Ian
Site Administrator
Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Online
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Frustrating as there's a massive gap in the market for an auction site that isn't run by cunts. Just waiting for the day in which that happens.
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Rich H
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Registered: 26th Oct 05
Location: West Sussex Drives: E46 M3
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It's not necessarily PayPal's fault these days, but eBay themselves as they're so heavily linked - as soon as you open a claim on eBay, if you paid by PayPal, they get involved and suspend the money.
The buyer protection thing is a fucking joke - I'm getting to the point of considering not selling on eBay anymore.
In the last week alone I've had 7 "missing" items - the buyer opens up a claim against me saying they've tried to contact me but heard nothing (total bollocks) and they haven't received their item - I'm not even allowed to respond, I can either refund the money or allow eBay to decide (meaning I lose my money anyway) All I'm left with is money out my account and filling in numerous Royal Mail claim forms in the vain attempt of claiming some form of compensation back.
Not even allowed to leave non paying bastards negative feedback these days either
[Edited on 23-09-2010 by Rich H]
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Graham88
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Registered: 16th Apr 07
Location: South East Kent Drives: E46 M3
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It used to be good but it does frustrate me alot now. I used to sell quite alot on there but it's too much hassle now. And people want too much for not alot of money. Sold a GSi spoiler for £5 and the guy left me neutral feedback because there were 'hairline cracks' in the spoiler, he didn't even message me before hand. I swear I was so enraged I was ready to drive the 200 miles to punch him in the face.
And I have had so much trouble with some buyers and then I can't fucking leave negative feedback, even typing this post is making me angry
[Edited on 23-09-2010 by Graham88]
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Twiggy
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Registered: 15th Oct 04
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Dont get me started!!!
Just sold a vectra hub. He rings me and asked which side!!!
Naturally its the wrong one. Then agrees to collect and swap it over.
Never turned up or even txt me to say was not coming!
Then i bang in a non paying claim and the cheeky fucker negs me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Edited on 23-09-2010 by Twiggy]
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Twiggy
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Registered: 15th Oct 04
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Frustrating as there's a massive gap in the market for an auction site that isn't run by cunts. Just waiting for the day in which that happens.
That is sooo true!
Was there not a lad one here who tryed ?
I think most of it is getting the website known and gaining peoples trust
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Sam
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Registered: 24th Dec 99
Location: West Midlands
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There are a few different auction sites, but they aren't and probably will never be nowhere near as popular as eBay.
Not unless they have a massive marketing budget and do TV adverts etc.
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Ian
Site Administrator
Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Online
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I can see the advert now "just like Ebay but we're not a gang of thieves"
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
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loads of people have tried but because ebay is so big it always fails.
needs one made with a massive advertising push
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Ian
Site Administrator
Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Online
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I remember talking to a guy years ago who was trying to do it for car parts, said he remortgaged his house to pay for everything, proper top dollar development on it, didn't do any programming himself, must have cost loads.
Not heard of it since!
I did remember thinking at the time that he was trailing behind even most forums in what he was trying to do, and they don't spend that much money to do it.
[Edited on 23-09-2010 by Ian]
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Whittie
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Registered: 11th Aug 06
Location: North Wales Drives: BMW, Corsa & Fiat
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You need a good £10M to advertise something to take on the likes of eBay.
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Whittie
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Registered: 11th Aug 06
Location: North Wales Drives: BMW, Corsa & Fiat
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PS. Do you like my new avatar?
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sand-eel
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Registered: 15th Mar 07
Location: carluke/braidwood--IRNBRULAND
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21 days, fucking hell
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sand-eel
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Registered: 15th Mar 07
Location: carluke/braidwood--IRNBRULAND
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...or is it paypal are greedy bastards and keep the money for more interest.
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Twiggy
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Registered: 15th Oct 04
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quote:
Originally posted by Whittie
You need a good £10M to advertise something to take on the likes of eBay.
I am in!
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Sam
Moderator
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Registered: 24th Dec 99
Location: West Midlands
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Maybe we should all set up a co-operative auction site 
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