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3CorsaMeal

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5th Aug 11 at 12:04

what sort of idiots design it the wrong way round to begin with?

philip2

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5th Aug 11 at 12:23

Design what the wrong way round? The standard xe head? Just that the xe is one of the best 4pots ever developed and proven its self by stil being used today.

Corsa_Sport21

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5th Aug 11 at 12:31

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
http://www.supertouring.co.uk/technology/engine_reverse_head.html

defines that a reverse head is one where the inlet is on the front of the engine and the exhaust on the back, so the puma DOES have a reverse head puma is deffo one awesoem car

Reverse:

Definition: Turned backward; having a contrary or opposite direction; hence; opposite or contrary in kind; as, the reverse order or method.

So no, it dosn't have a reverse head.

mantamark

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5th Aug 11 at 12:32

There are some bloody idiots in here.

And for once its not the corsa owners.

Steve

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5th Aug 11 at 12:48

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
http://www.supertouring.co.uk/technology/engine_reverse_head.html

defines that a reverse head is one where the inlet is on the front of the engine and the exhaust on the back, so the puma DOES have a reverse head puma is deffo one awesoem car

Reverse:

Definition: Turned backward; having a contrary or opposite direction; hence; opposite or contrary in kind; as, the reverse order or method.

So no, it dosn't have a reverse head.

yes in this instance having an opposite design to what is considered usual. Doesnt matter wether it was reversed aftert the factory or in the factory, it is a reversed head and just proves the puma to be the thoroughbred car it is still in todays modern age

Corsa_Sport21

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5th Aug 11 at 13:11

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
http://www.supertouring.co.uk/technology/engine_reverse_head.html

defines that a reverse head is one where the inlet is on the front of the engine and the exhaust on the back, so the puma DOES have a reverse head puma is deffo one awesoem car

Reverse:

Definition: Turned backward; having a contrary or opposite direction; hence; opposite or contrary in kind; as, the reverse order or method.

So no, it dosn't have a reverse head.

yes in this instance having an opposite design to what is considered usual. Doesnt matter wether it was reversed aftert the factory or in the factory, it is a reversed head and just proves the puma to be the thoroughbred car it is still in todays modern age

Jesus christ.

If you genuinely believe your car has a reverse head, you are alot dafter than i thought.

Steve

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5th Aug 11 at 13:16

lol, why doesnt it?

a reverse head was to cure a problem, inlet being at the back exhaust at the front, so they reversed the head.

the only time you would talk about a head needing reversing is in that scenario, my car already has that orientation therefore it has a "reversed" head over a conventional setup

Steve

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5th Aug 11 at 13:18

its like sticking a turbo on a non turbo car and calling it turbo charged then saying a car which already had a turbo from the factory isnt turbo charged

Corsa_Sport21

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5th Aug 11 at 13:25

@ the turbo comparison.

Just no.

Im sure once you understand the meaning of reverse, you will realise you are wrong.

P.S, both methods are conventional and widely used.

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5th Aug 11 at 13:27

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
lol, why doesnt it?

a reverse head was to cure a problem, inlet being at the back exhaust at the front, so they reversed the head.

Exactly, and as your car comes standard with the inlet at the front it hasn't been reversed to get like that.

Therefore no reversed head.

[Edited on 05-08-2011 by harrisp]

3CorsaMeal

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5th Aug 11 at 13:32

pre-reversed imo

Ian

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5th Aug 11 at 13:40

Puma head is not reversed.

You could probably argue that putting the intake at the front is a better idea because you get colder air but it's not without problems, most notably it puts the engine further forward in the car because the manifold needs to fit between it and the bulkhead.

Also makes the manifold more difficult to change although the engine can then be mounted lower. For racing applications it's a good idea, but it's not exclusive to those.

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5th Aug 11 at 13:46

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
its like sticking a turbo on a non turbo car and calling it turbo charged then saying a car which already had a turbo from the factory isnt turbo charged

Bad example there

Turbo'd is turbo'd theres no variation.

Heads come in differnt guises. Inlet at front, exhaust at back. Other way round. Both inlet and exhaust at back etc etc.

So as Ian and everyone else has said. A reversed head is a head thatv points the other way from standard.

Steve

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5th Aug 11 at 13:52

Puma has btcc tech

3CorsaMeal

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5th Aug 11 at 13:53

This is my one:

3CorsaMeal

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5th Aug 11 at 13:54

cooling air will cool the ingoing stuff in the inlet, heat goes out the back with the exhaust, is quite a lot of space around the back of engine for the heat to move

bloody well thought out

Jambo

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5th Aug 11 at 13:54

I reckon you should reverse the head Jim.

3CorsaMeal

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5th Aug 11 at 13:55

i will just put the front bumper on the back and vice versa, reversed bumpers i call it

R Lee

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5th Aug 11 at 13:57

"Is it worth it, let me work it
I put my thing down, flip it and reverse it"

Jambo

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5th Aug 11 at 14:03

I reckon due to the use of the words Reverse Head so many times in this thread if you type that in search it will just blow up.

Jake

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5th Aug 11 at 14:03

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
This is my one:

prime example of what ian says about mounting the engine further forward. the corrado vr6 would handle loads better if the engine wasnt in front of the axle

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