dannymccann
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We've had a spate of copper thefts round our way and the little cunts have nicked my overflow pipe from the cage outside the house. Do I need a gasman to fit another one and can it be replaced with plastic or something else like that? It's a new build so it's one of those little ones right near the bottom of the wall encased by a mesh cage, not really sure how to describe it as it's hidden behind a bush so I've never taken much notice of it!
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mattk
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has to be copper Im afraid, and should really be visible, id get a new one fitted and paint it black or something, deal with this alot at work
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dannymccann
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Think the old ones were black, matched the gutterings....am I going to find them off the shelf or is it going to need to be measured and can I even fit it myself?
Also, how to stop it going missing again, apart from catching the bastard and chopping his fingers off?
edit - also is it safe to keep using the boiler, obviously its the wrong time of the year for this shit to happen if I cant and I have no idea how long it's been since it was nicked...
[Edited on 26-11-2011 by dannymccann]
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mattk
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yeah its still ok to use, but id get it done sooner rather than later because its a safety component. its only a piece of pipe angled to the floor, just chop it inside the house and replace the pipe from there.
as for stopping it happening again Im not too sure. copper really is like gold now. Ive had 2 break ins this year for copper pipe. both times they have crawled over very valuble tools and equipment to get to it, honest to god ive now got it buried in my back garden
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XE Col
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My overflow pipe is plastic, was a flexi piece of plastic tube that came with the boiler, then goes into a solid piece going outside.
Why do they have to be copper?
Edit : presume this is the one?
[Edited on 27-11-2011 by XE Col]
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deanmcreynolds26
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thats your condensate pipe and not the same thing mate, assuming that goes into a drain pipe outside or into a lime soakaway in the ground outside?
has to be copper as plastic is not designed for the temperature or pressure of a pressure relief pipe,
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mattk
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yeah the one danny is reffering to is the pressure relief pipe that when in use will be throwing water at potentialy 80 degrees and at 3.5 bar so it has to be copper
the plastic one is a condensate drain that will probably freeze up in winter and shut your boiler off 
its sad but true, I think when you get it replaced you should see about trying to get a steel bit of trunking to screw over it with security screws, just leave it short a few mm`s so you can see the bottom of the pipe
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XE Col
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So there is 2 pipes that should go outside? I only have that one lol
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mattk
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do you have a pressure guage on your boiler, you may well have a gravity fed system in which case you would have just the one. if you have a pressure guage then yes you should have 2
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XE Col
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Yes it has a pressure gauge
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mattk
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may have one fitted somewhere else in the pipework, if there are no obvious open ends under the boiler.
Danny you could always try using stainless steel pipe if you could get hold of some, or even some Low Carbon Steel, that would be a bit extreme though
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dannymccann
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Sorry it's taken so long, when I leave the house in the morning and come home at night it's always bloody dark, here is a pic of what they have left behind, not even a stump 
What I'm wondering is because the end is sunk into the wall is a plumber going to have to rip the whole thing out from the inside or will it be possible to just attach a length on the end of it? And how much am I roughly looking at? Waiting for a cheque from the vet insurance for £1000 so money is real tight at the minute...
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mattk
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no way to save that from the outside im afraid, will need to be cut back inside, wont be much, only an hours work
Id leave it like that if it was mine its not dangerous like that, just dont let it get blocked
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dannymccann
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Ill stick the cage thing back around it to stop leaves getting at it, cheers
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