Jed D
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is a k&n panel filters (or other well known brands) actually worth getting/do you actually get any real gains from them?
reason i ask is i keep saying im going to get one for the sport but not sure if its worth spending £30 or whatever on one
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N3CRO
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Its worth it since you never have to replace them.
I had a Courtney Sport (Pipercross) panel filter in my Corsa 12v purely for that reason.
[Edited on 21-12-2011 by TheNobleOne]
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John
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No, better off getting a new paper one every year.
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Adam_B
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Not in terms of any performance gains on yours but as said if your planning on keeping your car a good few years its worth it in terms of the cost saving.
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Jed D
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my dads level 4 qualified and has a degree etc.. in mechanics and reckons that an after market filter only makes your engine run hotter?
t or f?
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BarnshaW
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like father like son
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Jed D
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quote: Originally posted by BarnshaW
like father like son
be quiet barny
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IvIarkgraham
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get a k&n panel filter
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Jed D
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are they good like IvIarkgraham?
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BarnshaW
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to be honest i had a gsi and i put a cheapo halfords filter on it and i thought it felt more responsive, was worth it just for the better noise as they do sound pretty good
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corsa-vxr
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folk say they run hotter others dont i run them always on an xe corsa prefer them but there cold airfeed ones i ran one on my corsa vxr sounded good and picked up better tbh also have one on my golf turbo again feels abit more responsive
on a sport id say no if its just standard tbh waste more fuel more than anything
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Jed D
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quote: Originally posted by corsa-vxr
folk say they run hotter others dont i run them always on an xe corsa prefer them but there cold airfeed ones i ran one on my corsa vxr sounded good and picked up better tbh also have one on my golf turbo again feels abit more responsive
on a sport id say no if its just standard tbh waste more fuel more than anything
not far off standard dude, its got 4.1 mani, decat... vx inlet (not yet fitted)
i dont have a cold air feed but iv de-restricted the flow into the air box and iv thought about getting one...
just want to know cs's veiws on air intake on sports
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Jed D
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quote: Originally posted by BarnshaW
to be honest i had a gsi and i put a cheapo halfords filter on it and i thought it felt more responsive, was worth it just for the better noise as they do sound pretty good
i want the car quieter tbh
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IvIarkgraham
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quote: Originally posted by Jed D
are they good like IvIarkgraham?
i had one, was ok
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corsa-vxr
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if you want it quieter and u have done that to the airbox already then a good panel filter would suit you best tbh airfilter will give u abit of noise when putting foot down
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John
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Is it any cheaper if you 'service' it at the recommended intervals?
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corsa-vxr
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standard air filters are cheap anyway ,mate 10er max
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Jed D
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would this be any good or just general ebay tatt
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160701727659?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_2320wt_1344
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jibjob
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The idea of an after market air filter is to let more air in leading to more fuel being put in leading to supposed gains in performance. Cone filters are useless unless they are enclosed as they'll just suck the warm air from the engine bay. Panel filters with a cold air feed are better as it won't suck in warm air.
As has been said though on a small powered car power gains won't be anything without other modifications and a remap. They'll last a lot longer than standard paper ones so are worth it in that sense.
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Jed D
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quote: Originally posted by jibjob
more air in leading to more fuel .
appreciate the response mate and i was toying with the idea of that cold air feed to the panel filter but does more air actually mean more fuel?
and
wont more air just make the engine run hotter? kind on like more oxygen on a fire if you get me?
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Ian
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Cone filter will typically run hotter because the air is drawn from inside the engine bay.
Hence why panel and modifications to the airbox are generally preferred.
K&N or similar will also flow better than paper but the cost saving is negligible, you're supposed to re-oil it as often as you would replace a paper one.
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Ian
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quote: Originally posted by Jed D
wont more air just make the engine run hotter? kind on like more oxygen on a fire if you get me?
Quick answer is yes because you get a better burn but its offset against things like the throughput of air from the intake which is colder than the chamber and that the fuel itself is relatively cold before combustion.
Hot engine isn't necessarily bad, hot intake is bad because the burn isn't as efficient. But if you have cold, dense air then the burn is good and that's where the power is. Different issue to if the engine is running hot and you're thinning the oil, detonating the mixture or warping stuff.
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Jed D
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spotty dog ian tar very much
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