emicen
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Never realised this place was so full of ballers. 300 quid a month, extra cash in pocket, piffling 
From the sounds of it Adam, I'd go for it. More money plus removes the feeling of staleness, win win.
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whitter45
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depends how much 6k means to you - i.e gets to a point were its the job, opportunities etc that will have a bigger barring than money
If its right in terms of opportunity and fits in with your long term career goals then do it
If its short term of additional cash (which I don't think it is in your case) then don't do it as the novelty of extra cash wears thin after a few months and you will end up looking for new work anyway
I have had a few job offers ranging from 6k - 10k more but they don't fit with what I want to do long term
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Tiger
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I'd cut throats for a £1200 a year rise let alone £6k, out of my income I have about £100 left a month to spend on myself....
No pay rise now for about 5 years.
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AK
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I work to earn money......
so getting more money is always a big factor in my career choice.
I dont work to earn more work.
I need to work to do the things I like.
The job is essentially the same (for a larger company).....
Also the 6k isnt really over a year.... its an estimation based on a 'day rate' thats about £35 more a day.
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stuartmitchell
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The thing is with counter offers AK is that you have to wonder where this increase is coming from if they do offer more money? For example:
- They give you an extra 10K now and then your on the same salary for the next 5 years becuase in there eyes they have already given you a raise?
- When it comes to promoting someone will they choose the guy that tried to leave or the guy who has been loyally by there side the whole time?
- The other company who offered you the new job will most likely be quite miffed if they have gone away - increased the salary at your request only to be used as a bargaining chip with your present employer - you dont want to burn your bridges especially if there are only 2 companies that you can really work for?
- Also, you mention the work at your current gaff being a bit mundane, no matter how much ££ they throw at you that will still remain and I suspect thats prompted you to apply for a new job in the first place.
Risky business accepting a counter offer mate. If I were you, I'd change companies, if you dont like it then leave your current employer on good terms and I imagine a door would be left open for you.
Just my 2p's worth mate!
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all the big internet guns came out after that comment eh 
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Daimo B
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Train me up, i'll do your current
You move on, take the money, we can swap at a later date.
tbh, its more about what you want, opposed to the money. Between you 2 im sure the wage is good, so its more about job satisfaction. If you've worked at the old place before, would you get bored quickly?
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corsajay88
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quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
I'd cut throats for a £1200 a year rise let alone £6k, out of my income I have about £100 left a month to spend on myself....
No pay rise now for about 5 years.
same, taken overtime rate off as well so lost about 5k a year on top. about a fifth of my wage 
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by stuartmitchell
The thing is with counter offers AK is that you have to wonder where this increase is coming from if they do offer more money? For example:
- They give you an extra 10K now and then your on the same salary for the next 5 years becuase in there eyes they have already given you a raise?
- When it comes to promoting someone will they choose the guy that tried to leave or the guy who has been loyally by there side the whole time?
- The other company who offered you the new job will most likely be quite miffed if they have gone away - increased the salary at your request only to be used as a bargaining chip with your present employer - you dont want to burn your bridges especially if there are only 2 companies that you can really work for?
- Also, you mention the work at your current gaff being a bit mundane, no matter how much ££ they throw at you that will still remain and I suspect thats prompted you to apply for a new job in the first place.
Risky business accepting a counter offer mate. If I were you, I'd change companies, if you dont like it then leave your current employer on good terms and I imagine a door would be left open for you.
Just my 2p's worth mate!
there is no official offer as yet.... it was simply a ballpark figure over the phone that I said would need to be more. So any offer is their first offer.
I'm not playing one against the other.... I have what i'd class as friends at both companies! I'm simply looking out for no1.
I didnt say the work was mundane either - just a feeling that the company/work was a bit stagnent. Hard to describe but sometimes I enjoy it, sometimes its just 'work' and a chore. What job isnt though? Little things are annoying me more.... I dont think the company is somtimes going in the right direction either.
Things that are annoying me.... no training, last 3 years have had crap wage rises (but ok bonuses). I have to work my ass off during the months I'd rather be at home. My work is 'supposed' to be 50/50 like 4 on 4 off but last summer I did something like 150 days in 7 months. It should be 180days in 12months!!! So away 70% of the summer!
ARGHHHHHH... i dunno.
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Colin
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Jack it in & get a job as a lollipop man outside a 6th form girls comprehensive school.
Job satisfaction is king 
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stuartmitchell
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
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Originally posted by stuartmitchell
The thing is with counter offers AK is that you have to wonder where this increase is coming from if they do offer more money? For example:
- They give you an extra 10K now and then your on the same salary for the next 5 years becuase in there eyes they have already given you a raise?
- When it comes to promoting someone will they choose the guy that tried to leave or the guy who has been loyally by there side the whole time?
- The other company who offered you the new job will most likely be quite miffed if they have gone away - increased the salary at your request only to be used as a bargaining chip with your present employer - you dont want to burn your bridges especially if there are only 2 companies that you can really work for?
- Also, you mention the work at your current gaff being a bit mundane, no matter how much ££ they throw at you that will still remain and I suspect thats prompted you to apply for a new job in the first place.
Risky business accepting a counter offer mate. If I were you, I'd change companies, if you dont like it then leave your current employer on good terms and I imagine a door would be left open for you.
Just my 2p's worth mate!
there is no official offer as yet.... it was simply a ballpark figure over the phone that I said would need to be more. So any offer is their first offer.
I'm not playing one against the other.... I have what i'd class as friends at both companies! I'm simply looking out for no1.
I didnt say the work was mundane either - just a feeling that the company/work was a bit stagnent. Hard to describe but sometimes I enjoy it, sometimes its just 'work' and a chore. What job isnt though? Little things are annoying me more.... I dont think the company is somtimes going in the right direction either.
Things that are annoying me.... no training, last 3 years have had crap wage rises (but ok bonuses). I have to work my ass off during the months I'd rather be at home. My work is 'supposed' to be 50/50 like 4 on 4 off but last summer I did something like 150 days in 7 months. It should be 180days in 12months!!! So away 70% of the summer!
ARGHHHHHH... i dunno.
From the other companies point of view mate, they had a figure in mind of a 6k increase so it may not be the first offer to you but it is the first offer they had in mind.
I understnad your looking out for number one but if your considering a counter offer then you are in fact playing one against the other. Especially if you consider taking the new companies offer to your existing employer and saying - BEAT THAT or i'm outta here? I guarantee that is how the new company will see it mate.
Sorry I meant Stagnent and your right to a certian extent all jobs are like that but it seems your current company are taking the piss a bit with the days away.
If the new company can guarantee the equal rotation and training I would make the move
Good luck anyway mate 
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AK
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ok.... made a desicion after a frantic couple of days of offers and negotiation.
Company B (the one i'd be moving too) offered a fecking good package after saying the intial one was unacceptable, increased day rate (14% raise), sign on bonus, 2nd year bonus, 10% yearly bonus and 7% pension contrib.
I would have accepted that but gave Company A a chance. They have offered a better wage package that offsets the bonuses etc
They also said they woud address my issues raised.
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James
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Sign-on bonuses are over rated anyway. I got quite a decent one at my current company but I've just quit and have to pay it back now 
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Jamescorsa97
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You must earn way too much money 
All in all you work to you can have fun when your not at work. try and get as much money as you can.
People who don't like their life, make work their life. Which I am sure is not your case
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Matt H
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Adam.... it's the Aberdeen merry go round. Get it done!
From what I've seen/heard it doesn't really pay to be loyal. And everyone is doing it, providing you part on good terms I don't see you upsetting anyone long term
Plus it's not like its a family company or anything like that
[Edited on 08-05-2012 by Matt H]
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gavin18787
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I just handed my notice in last time and waited for my boss to call. Worked 
Bit risky though but then I would have been happy with my other job offer. Glad it worked out though as I really like where I am and know everyone
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AK
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yup.... sometimes it seems the only way to get what you deserve is to highlight that they could lose you.
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