BluKoo
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Originally posted by nathy_87
Awesome photos Blukoo. Like the first one just a shame you can see shadows. Are you using your new light in either photos?
I was indeed. The second one was created using a few pictures like this:
The first was just natural sunlight.
[Edited on 17-08-2012 by BluKoo]
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nathy_87
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Very cool mate. 
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Toby
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Originally posted by nathy_87
Awesome photos Blukoo. Like the first one just a shame you can see shadows. Are you using your new light in either photos?
Agreed, get rid of your shadow on the first picture.
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Tiger
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You've got to take into account that using an uncalibrated monitor when editing images makes an incredible amount of difference when other people view them. When i'm post shoot editing, I use a calibrated monitor, if I then view on my laptop, the same images i've edited, they look totally different because my laptop isn't calibrated (I only use the laptop for eBay, porn etc...)
[Edited on 21-08-2012 by Tiger]
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BluKoo
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Yeah, i've noticed that images i've edited during the day will look different when I look at them at night due to the lack of light hitting my monitor.
Tempted to get a little dark room to work in lol.
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Balling
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Originally posted by BluKoo
Tempted to get a little dark room to work in lol.
A dark room for digital editing is no good. As long as you don't have direct light in your eyes or screen, you'll be fine.
You can do what the pro guys do and get a box around your screen, so you're basically looking down a short tunnel. Works wonders.
First up is the quality of the screen, though. Eizo has long been the favored brand, but last I looked they didn't offer pre-calibrated screens, so you have to buy calibration hardware as well (and learn how to use said hardware).
Dell do some pretty good pre-calibrated screens. I have one at work and it's calibrated to both sRGB and AdobeRGB. Very recomendable.
http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&sku=294438
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Tiger
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My monitors calibration will appear slightly different depending on ambient light, colour temp of the ambient light etc so I have 2 or 3 different settings for the varying conditions where my pc is. Mainly taking ambient light and light colour into account.
Calibration will naturally alter over time so I don't know quite how a pre calibrated monitor could possibly be accurate throughout its life.
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Balling
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Calibration will naturally alter over time so I don't know quite how a pre calibrated monitor could possibly be accurate throughout its life.
I'd say that a quality pre calibrated monitor will always beat any uncalibrated monitor and any calibrated crap monitor. My calibrated MacBook Pro monitor certainly doesn't hold a candle to my pre calibrated Dell. This is an extreme comparison, of course.
Sure, the screen will change over time, but after the initial run in (which the pre calibrated have from factory) the changes are very subtle and you'll need a very, very keen eye, not to mention particular need, to actually see the difference.
Even compensating for ambient light as you do is not the correct solution. To be completely anal you'd have to control ambient light, not compensate for it.
For any hobby photographer, a pre calibrated monitor will be a major step forward from a budget or laptop monitor.
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Tiger
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Originally posted by Balling
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Originally posted by Tiger
Calibration will naturally alter over time so I don't know quite how a pre calibrated monitor could possibly be accurate throughout its life.
I'd say that a quality pre calibrated monitor will always beat any uncalibrated monitor and any calibrated crap monitor.
Yeah definitely, but I'd still say a pre calibrated monitor would still need routinely checking for consistency.
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Balling
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Originally posted by Tiger
Yeah definitely, but I'd still say a pre calibrated monitor would still need routinely checking for consistency.
Perhaps. It's certainly the standard.
I used to do printer and monitor calibrations at my old job. Specifications said that monitors needed to be re calibrated monthly, but I did it once a year and it did fuck all visible difference and the measurable differences were impossibly small.
I've never actually seen any documentation on the decrease in colour accuracy over time and from my own experience, I'm not certain it's actually an issue with modern monitors being as good as they are.
Still, calibrating your Eizo screen monthly is certainly not going to give you a LESS accurate colour space. I'm just certain that for the average guy, pre calibration will be more than sufficient.
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BluKoo
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Why has monitor calibration been brought up anyway?
Do you think the colours look off?
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Tiger
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No, but it's worth considering if you have contrasting opinions on colours / tones / brightness /contrast etc.
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BluKoo
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Yeah, when funds allow it's something on my "to buy" list.
Although, a whole new computer is on the list too, so i'll maybe spec something with a calibrated monitor.
I do a lot of design work too, so it really would come in handy.
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Tiger
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I use the Spyder calibration tool and it's really quite good.
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