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Daimo B

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5th Mar 13 at 11:34

Check any formal paperwork, bank letters, mortgages that you have been sent.

Or even legal paperwork as used by all law firms and investment banks.

2 spaces after a full stop.

Just because you may not of heard of it doesn't mean its wrong, it just means you don't know about it.

If you wrote in-correct English on legal paperwork it is picked up. Modern software will automatically do it, before this it was manually done on typewriters and early word processing programs to define a new sentence. Now its automatically, but us older folk who used older software had to manually do it.

So, yes, 2 spaces is actually correct for IT documents.

[Edited on 05-03-2013 by Daimo B]

Steve

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5th Mar 13 at 11:53

Neither is correct per se. Its not an English, or grammar issue. Its a formatting issue.

If you are using an old type writer then yes its correct as the characters are fixed width.

If you using anything remotely modern for word processing then its incorrect to use it.

Sam

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5th Mar 13 at 11:54

Some people on here don't add a space after any full stops, the trend setting (lazy) fucks.

Balling

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5th Mar 13 at 12:02

quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Just because you may not of heard of it doesn't mean its wrong, it just means you don't know about it.

Just because you have heard of it doesn't mean it's right.

That it's commonly used is i no way an argument that it's correct, wouldn't you say? It's not exactly hard to find commonly used errors or misunderstandings.

Read the second link posted by John at the bottom of the previous page. Explains pretty clearly why it was used and why it's wrong to use it today.

Dom

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5th Mar 13 at 12:20

quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Check any formal paperwork, bank letters, mortgages that you have been sent.

Just reading today's mail from HMRC, Barclays, HSBC and my accountant - all use a single space after a full stop. Clearly they all must be wrong

A2H GO

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5th Mar 13 at 12:23

Clearly used by old fashioned people who went to old fashioned schools who are stuck in their ways. Usually the same people who resist change.

John

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5th Mar 13 at 12:47

Daimo and Nathy say it's correct, that pretty conclusively means the opposite.

Shelly

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5th Mar 13 at 12:51

I am old, and therefore old fashioned.

BluKoo

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5th Mar 13 at 13:13

quote:
Originally posted by Shelly
Double space is proper

[Edited on 04-03-2013 by Shelly]

You mean correct.

I was also taught that it should be 2 spaces after a full stop, but it's not something I follow. Even when typing something formally.

[Edited on 05-03-2013 by BluKoo]

Dom

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5th Mar 13 at 13:50

quote:
Originally posted by Shelly
I am old, and therefore old fashioned.

You're not old fashioned.....

Hammer

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5th Mar 13 at 14:02

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
weird that some have never heard of it, especially Hammer.

i never bother, thought Word did it automatically.

I went to a Catholic school, which means 2 things; I was touched by priests and I know what punctuation is.

Hammer

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5th Mar 13 at 14:03

quote:
Originally posted by Shelly
I am old, and therefore old fashioned.

Improper use of the comma.

I no longer believe you that double spacing is correct.

Shelly

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5th Mar 13 at 14:03

quote:
Originally posted by Dom

quote:
Originally posted by Shelly
I am old, and therefore old fashioned.

You're not old fashioned.....

Dom

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5th Mar 13 at 15:05

quote:
Originally posted by Shelly

quote:
Originally posted by Dom

quote:
Originally posted by Shelly
I am old, and therefore old fashioned.

You're not old fashioned.....

BYRON

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5th Mar 13 at 15:13

quote:
Originally posted by smcGSI16V
Double space after a full stop. Got taught that at school. One space after a comma, two spaces after a full stop.

Might be a generation thing. I personally think standards are lower these days anyway.

[Edited on 05-03-2013 by smcGSI16V]

This.

Steve

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5th Mar 13 at 15:17

I agree, that standards are dropping. However this has nothing to do with standards.

Its like saying standards are dropping because people are using smaller margins in Word.

JordyCarter

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5th Mar 13 at 15:17

Ive always always used one space never heard of two spaces.

Gary

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5th Mar 13 at 15:37

Does it really matter though?

Hammer

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5th Mar 13 at 15:51

Standards are dropping because people can't spell not because they are no longer hitting the space bar twice after a full stop.

Balling

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5th Mar 13 at 17:06

If the standard previously was that students were taught an outdated typography rule by teachers too stupid to understand a change in conditions and the students themselves were too stupid to grasp the cause for said outdated rule thereby realising it to be outdated, well... then I'd say the standards are pretty much unchanged, it's just other stuff the students are too stupid to understand.

And no, it's not old fashioned to have a flawed understanding of typography and punctuation. If anything, it's highest fashion.

Russ

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5th Mar 13 at 19:34

quote:
Originally posted by JordyCarter
Ive always always used one space never heard of two spaces.

this confirms that it should be two.

Dr Pepper

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5th Mar 13 at 19:49

When typewriters first turned up they used double, or sometimes triple spacing after fullstops. This was to mimic the print style of ye olde typesetters. It was purely for aesthetics but it then became the standard for secretarial colleges up until fairly recently(1980's onwards)

Now its really up to you what you use. Personally I think double after a full stop and single after a comma looks better.

My ex looked into this kind of stuff for an English masters from Oxford and considering how fucking long it took her I believe her. My mum was also a legal secretary and she drilled the double spacing into me ..... you would not believe how many rules and standards there used to be to put a page of text out.

[Edited on 05-03-2013 by Dr Pepper]

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