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drunkenfool
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16th Mar 04 at 13:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The guy accross the road from me works for the home office, and he told me there are new laws coming in may that give the police the power to impound cars with noisy exhausts, and that the dB limit is being lowered. Is this true? Im not 100% sure cos the guy is a bit of a dick sometimes!
Adam-CorsaC18s
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ask him nicely to provide you wi some hard copy of this new law or some draft of it?
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16th Mar 04 at 13:27   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

didnt know there was a limit anyway?
Dav
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkenfool
The guy accross the road from me works for the home office, and he told me there are new laws coming in may that give the police the power to impound cars with noisy exhausts, and that the dB limit is being lowered. Is this true? Im not 100% sure cos the guy is a bit of a dick sometimes!
I don't know if it's true but I wouldn't put it past them. After window tints, loud exhausts will probably be one of the next things cracked down on by Police etc.
dysonm
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This is true it's classed as niose polution
Jason
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16th Mar 04 at 13:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how wud u know?

if i drive easy my car makes no noise if i drive hard its quite loud?
Fad
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16th Mar 04 at 13:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well some cars just ask for it i think its a good thing...some cars sound bluddy awfull

did anyone see that muppet in the mynheer corsa B at southend on sat...sounded like was goin to blow up
PaulW
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16th Mar 04 at 13:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

there is a limit of noise on race tracks

cars can also fail the MOT if the tester's ears start to bleed

but as far as I know, there is no legal limit to the amount of noise produced by a car exhaust.

But it is illegal to beep your horn after 11pm apparently
Ned
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oh im fucked if its true
Fad
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there is a limit i knwo that much i reckon about 99db or summing iirc
PaulW
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Nismo will know about the track rules & exhaust noise limits
Noonster
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I belive most tracks have a limit of 69.5Db @ 4500 RPM

And there soon will be laws on exsesive noise polution caused by a car.

I belive they will be able to impound any car that fails the test and possibly also an on the spot fine along the lines of window titning fines.
micra_pete
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there is no limit to noise on the road, but technically, and i can find proof if needed, if your exhaust is significantly louder than standard, the police can tell you to remove it etc, and the mot tester can fail you.
corsasport110
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ya it is true it was in the paper the over week
vibrio
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FlamingCorsa
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think the cops can clamp down on u and class cars as a public newsence!
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mine with decat is seriously loud. even with the CAT in place the feckinger rumbles
FlamingCorsa
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de cat pipe makes huge difference i agree vibro! mine is prob not 2 bad with cat i guess but silly without cat in!
Tom
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They will have to check it @ a certain db level on amot soon i think...

Noonster
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quote:
Originally posted by micra_pete
there is no limit to noise on the road, but technically, and i can find proof if needed, if your exhaust is significantly louder than standard, the police can tell you to remove it etc, and the mot tester can fail you.


Please can you provide proof??
as got pulled with cops saying mines too loud....
however been told that if MOT tester says its fine then the police cant do a thing???
wayne hiscock
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ur not alloud over 100db on castle coombe dunno if thats nationwide tho


im gonna be fucked tho

apparantly u can hear my exhaust miles away
Noonster
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Pete - ttt .

My mate at works next door neighbough just got a letter throught the post stating....

"he has to pay £350 and is getting 3points on his licence for excessive noise"

WTF - im defo gonna have to get it sorted...

And apparently its was about half as noisy as mine
Siberia
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christ what will the banger racers do? theey dont have zorsts at all on the track
micra_pete
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quote:
Originally posted by Noonster19
Pete - ttt .

My mate at works next door neighbough just got a letter throught the post stating....

"he has to pay £350 and is getting 3points on his licence for excessive noise"

WTF - im defo gonna have to get it sorted...

And apparently its was about half as noisy as mine


from the mot tester manual


quote:

b. a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition.



the wording here says its down to the tester to what he thinks is unreasonable

quote:
59 Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance

(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which-

(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).

(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).

(3) Those powers are-

(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless-

(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if-

(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.

(8) The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.

(9) In this section-

"driving" has the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52);
"motor vehicle" means any mechanically propelled vehicle, whether or not it is intended or adapted for use on roads; and
"private dwelling house" does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.
60 Retention etc. of vehicles seized under section 59

(1) The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision as to-

(a) the removal and retention of motor vehicles seized under section 59; and
(b) the release or disposal of such motor vehicles.
(2) Regulations under subsection (1) may, in particular, make provision-

(a) for the giving of notice of the seizure of a motor vehicle under section 59 to a person who is the owner of that vehicle or who, in accordance with the regulations, appears to be its owner;
(b) for the procedure by which a person who claims to be the owner of a motor vehicle seized under section 59 may seek to have it released;
(c) for requiring the payment of fees, charges or costs in relation to the removal and retention of such a motor vehicle and to any application for its release;
(d) as to the circumstances in which a motor vehicle seized under section 59 may be disposed of;
(e) as to the destination-
(i) of any fees or charges payable in accordance with the regulations; and
(ii) of the proceeds (if any) arising from the disposal of a motor vehicle seized under section 59;
(f) for the delivery to a local authority, in circumstances prescribed by or determined in accordance with the regulations, of any motor vehicle seized under section 59.
(3) Regulations under subsection (1) must provide that a person who would otherwise be liable to pay any fee or charge under the regulations shall not be liable to pay it if-

(a) the use by reference to which the motor vehicle in question was seized was not a use by him; and
(b) he did not know of the use of the vehicle in the manner which led to its seizure, had not consented to its use in that manner and could not, by the taking of reasonable steps, have prevented its use in that manner.
(4) In this section-

"local authority"-
(a) in relation to England, means the council of a county, metropolitan district or London borough, the Common Council of the City of London or Transport for London; and
(b) in relation to Wales, means the council of a county or county borough;
"motor vehicle" has the same meaning as in section 59.


from what i can tell its all down to whether the copper doesn't like it or not, i would have thought someone on here would know better than me though. i'll keep looking

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