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astravanman
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   23rd Jul 04 at 21:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
can any one help with this when u pump them fats they r ok but then they go

[Edited on 25-07-2004 by astravanman]
craigpcg
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23rd Jul 04 at 22:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
thats what u call brake fade m8
ed
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23rd Jul 04 at 22:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Hey? Better description would be good. But it sounds like there is no fluid or air bubbles, cos fade happens when they get hot?
1600power
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23rd Jul 04 at 23:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ur master cylinder sounds like one of its seals might have failed aswell!
astravanman
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well i have bleed all the brakes and they r fine and there is loads off fluid there is no leaks round the cylinder lol but as soon as u get in the car they r fine and like 1 min down the road and there is no brakes lol i nearly killed my self 3 times lol
Eastbounre Corsa Bloke
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23rd Jul 04 at 23:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
so the brakes disapear? u loose them?they vanish fomr the corsa? no wonder u cant brake if ther enot there lol
astravanman
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24th Jul 04 at 00:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
god how funny r u mate i take it u know shit bouts carzs then bud prob dont even drive
Eastbounre Corsa Bloke
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lol chill man im only messing u sure all the house r on tight n that?
big eck
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24th Jul 04 at 02:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
When you say no brakes does your pedal go straight to the carpet???
Adam-D
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24th Jul 04 at 06:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
youve just fitted a xe havent you?
could be the vacumm pipe isnt sealing right?
Kris TD
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24th Jul 04 at 06:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
you got the calipers on the right side? bleed nipple at the top?
starkie
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24th Jul 04 at 08:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
someone else done that before too then lol
corsafreak
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24th Jul 04 at 10:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astravanman
can any one help with this when u pump them fats they r ok but then they go


were you they guy saying gsi brakes are ok for braking an xe? if you aren't running 2.0 16v brakes then it's time for an upgrade.
sounds like brake fade, does it happen after some heavy braking.
TOMAS
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24th Jul 04 at 19:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
No im sure he means that the pedal is going soft which isnt brake fade. It will be one of two things...

1. Servo vaucume is not sealed properly

2. More chance the master cylinder seals have had it, did it just start happening or was it after you bled the brakes as you have to be very carefull when bleeding that you dont knacker them...
astravanman
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write the brakes have been fine as i have had the car on the road for 3 weeks now just started happened have been brakeing herd 2 lol the vacum is ok on the brakes no leaks or shit but how do u tell if the seals have gone would there be fluid all round the cyclinder
1600power
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24th Jul 04 at 23:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no the seals help to stem the flow of fluid in and out of the master cylinder so that pressure builds up inside it when the pedel is pressed thus causing the brakes to activate.

However if the seals inside have perished then so have their powers of producing a pressurised environment and therefore the sudden loss of ur brakes.

when u fitted the engine was the master cylinder devoid of brake fluid??? if it was then the seals will have almost certainly dried out which is ultra ultra bad for mastercylinders as ur never supposed to leave them without brakefluid in them!
astravanman
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no it had fluid in them but the brakes come back when u pump the pedal then they go again
Adam-D
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25th Jul 04 at 08:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ok check the calipers are the right way up.
then it could be fade as they arent up to the job mebbe get 2ltr ate brakes
or buy a brand new master cylinder there not that expensive.

this is your brakes your talking about and skimping on cost will only get you killed

also check if your loosing fliud anywhere etc
ainsley_brader
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sounds like air in the system or a leak rather than the cylinder going to me.

If it was OK up until it was stood for 3 weeks then it went like this i would say personally a leak?

Have you checked the rear wheel cylinders inside the rear drums?
ed
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quote:
Originally posted by astravanman
no it had fluid in them but the brakes come back when u pump the pedal then they go again

Mine did that once, after the mechanic fitted a new rear sub-frame to my car... So the brakes must have been bled e.t.c... I just pumped them up again and it hasn't happened since.
astravanman
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it has ate callipers and turbo grooved disks and green stuff pads mate i only get the best stu ff for my car lol so it could be the maser cyclineder
Siberia
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25th Jul 04 at 17:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
sounds like air in the system its all it could be if the pressure comes back when u pump the brakes.
astravanman
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i have bleads the systme tho mate
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26th Jul 04 at 00:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
best bet is to take it into a garage really, unless u want to kill urself trying to fix the problem...
Adam
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quote:
Originally posted by astravanman
green stuff pads .......... i only get the best stu ff for my

 
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