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Jerham

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16th Jan 05 at 19:00

thinkin of maybe gettin seat ibiza 1.8 20v turbo, what sort of power are they, would a standard one stand a chance against a 20xe corsa.

cheers richard

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16th Jan 05 at 19:16

156hp and around the same torque. xe corsa will be a bit quicker. chipped bezza will eat one mid range though

Twiggy

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16th Jan 05 at 19:25

I was looking at these too. Its basically an Audi TT engine and you can chip em up to 250bhp(ish...)

Tom N

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16th Jan 05 at 19:27

just raced one half an hour ago.

kept with it even tho i had loads of wheel spin.
do they have traction control?

Kris TD

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16th Jan 05 at 19:39

quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
I was looking at these too. Its basically an Audi TT engine and you can chip em up to 250bhp(ish...)

not quite, you can chip them too just over 200 bhp, also add a k04 turbo and you can add another 20 bhp on just from that.

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16th Jan 05 at 19:39

quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
I was looking at these too. Its basically an Audi TT engine and you can chip em up to 250bhp(ish...)

no you can't

Twiggy

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16th Jan 05 at 19:44

u can get a 225bhp TT and chip that goes to 250....? I saw it on a website.....

[Edited on 16-01-2005 by REDSPORT]

Tom N

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16th Jan 05 at 19:44

the cupra r is 180bhp

so if the tt 225 is the same engine as that, just with a different map, then surely 225bhp is possible, unless the tt 225 has a diff turbo etc

bradfincham

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16th Jan 05 at 19:45

thats the cupra mate!

Kris TD

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16th Jan 05 at 19:46

quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
u can get a 225bhp TT and chip that goes to 250....? I saw it on a website.....

[Edited on 16-01-2005 by REDSPORT]

yeah but thats a different engine too the ibiza one, it has forged pistons, different turbo etc..

Jerham

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16th Jan 05 at 21:54

i have mate with a beetle 1.8t and got it mapped at jabbasport to 222bhp.

Corsa_B1.2

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16th Jan 05 at 21:59

There quick mate but not superquick. Corsa_godfather blew my mates off in his 106gti!

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16th Jan 05 at 22:03

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i have mate with a beetle 1.8t and got it mapped at jabbasport to 222bhp.

the gayest 222bhp in the world though

Simon L

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16th Jan 05 at 22:32

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Originally posted by t-gangsta
the cupra r is 180bhp

so if the tt 225 is the same engine as that, just with a different map, then surely 225bhp is possible, unless the tt 225 has a diff turbo etc

The 225 TT has 2 intercoolers and a larger turbo i believe.

Simon L

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16th Jan 05 at 22:32

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Originally posted by CoRSa_Me_uP
i have mate with a beetle 1.8t and got it mapped at jabbasport to 222bhp.

Might have been one of the newer 1.8 20vt with VVT and the KO3s turbo. They usually make around 230bhp when remapped.

Simon L

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16th Jan 05 at 22:33

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Originally posted by t-gangsta
just raced one half an hour ago.

kept with it even tho i had loads of wheel spin.
do they have traction control?

They do have TC, but its mince. On/off switch basically, works better when you turn it off and use your right foot less like on/off.

Simon L

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16th Jan 05 at 22:38

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Originally posted by CoRSa_Me_uP
thinkin of maybe gettin seat ibiza 1.8 20v turbo, what sort of power are they, would a standard one stand a chance against a 20xe corsa.

cheers richard

mk3 Cupra as standard is about 156bhp and 155lb/ft.

Remapped will make around ~200bhp and ~200lb/ft as standard, should cost around £400-£600.

Stick on a FMIC, KO3s turbo, 3" down pipe + race cat along with 3" exhaust and a custom remap and you could probably get around 240bhp and 260lb/ft. That will cost much more though.

Kris TD

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16th Jan 05 at 22:57

quote:
Originally posted by Simon L

quote:
Originally posted by CoRSa_Me_uP
thinkin of maybe gettin seat ibiza 1.8 20v turbo, what sort of power are they, would a standard one stand a chance against a 20xe corsa.

cheers richard

mk3 Cupra as standard is about 156bhp and 155lb/ft.

Remapped will make around ~200bhp and ~200lb/ft as standard, should cost around £400-£600.

Stick on a FMIC, KO3s turbo, 3" down pipe + race cat along with 3" exhaust and a custom remap and you could probably get around 240bhp and 260lb/ft. That will cost much more though.

rather than using the k03s from the 180 version most people upgrade too the k04 which is also a direct fit which is on the 225 version.

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16th Jan 05 at 23:07

quote:
Originally posted by t-gangsta
the cupra r is 180bhp

so if the tt 225 is the same engine as that, just with a different map, then surely 225bhp is possible, unless the tt 225 has a diff turbo etc

it's not the same.

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16th Jan 05 at 23:08

quote:
Originally posted by Simon L

quote:
Originally posted by CoRSa_Me_uP
i have mate with a beetle 1.8t and got it mapped at jabbasport to 222bhp.

Might have been one of the newer 1.8 20vt with VVT and the KO3s turbo. They usually make around 230bhp when remapped.

VW's are different to the seats. the later VW's got VVT and a slighly larger turbo. that would be the same engine thats in the seat leon cupra

SetH

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17th Jan 05 at 09:48

quote:
Originally posted by Simon L

quote:
Originally posted by CoRSa_Me_uP
thinkin of maybe gettin seat ibiza 1.8 20v turbo, what sort of power are they, would a standard one stand a chance against a 20xe corsa.

cheers richard

mk3 Cupra as standard is about 156bhp and 155lb/ft.

Remapped will make around ~200bhp and ~200lb/ft as standard, should cost around £400-£600.

Stick on a FMIC, KO3s turbo, 3" down pipe + race cat along with 3" exhaust and a custom remap and you could probably get around 240bhp and 260lb/ft. That will cost much more though.

I was sure that standard torque was 180lb/ft?

As mentioned the TT has VVT, but internals on the Ibiza AYP engines are forged also.

I would have taken the pepsi challenge with an XE Corsa when i had my cupra.

Paul_J

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17th Jan 05 at 09:51

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Originally posted by Corsa_B1.2
There quick mate but not superquick. Corsa_godfather blew my mates off in his 106gti!

That's what I was gonna ask

Considering 106 gti's are only a little behind 2.0 16v corsa's ... so surely quicker than the ibiza turbo?

SetH

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17th Jan 05 at 10:23

You guys are really underestimating these beeza cupras i tell thee! Im sure standard torque is 180lb/ft (will check when i get home), and this is the lightest VAG car with the 1.8T engine.

Nobber

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17th Jan 05 at 11:34

Many people underestemate them SetH. I often get people trying to have a go but the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

The Ibiza Cupra uses the 1.8T engine but the kk03 turbo on which is smaller than both the Leon Cupra R or Audi TT 225 engine.

The turbo's can be swapped but it's hassle and expense. The Std 156bhp 1.8T kk03 engine can get upto about 220-225 bhp with a remap. It's usually only about 210 ish but with all the torque and power coming in a big installment!

There is Ibiza Cupra's that have had the full works, Jabasport IHI turbo conversion etc etc running 340+ BHP. It's a shit load of money but hella fun!

I've got both cars. An Ibiza Cupra R and a 2.0 16v XE'd Tigra with power cap, induction kit and straight thru pipe and the Ibiza is quicker. The ibiza was rolling roaded at 202bhp in std form.

SetH

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17th Jan 05 at 11:35

202 standard, thats quite a bit above the 180 for an R. Did you get a torque figure too?

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