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Jas
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27th Feb 05 at 23:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im lookin for a first car....

what would eb the best bet?

diesel or petrol...

i know you cant get a diesel sounding decent but perfromance wise??

obviously if i get a diesel the engine will be bigger...

e.g

306 petrol 1400cc
306 diesel 1900cc

help me please!
Colin
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How much u got to spend and how many miles do you think you will do/week???
Jas
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i got up to 2k'ish (but i wouldnt mind spending 1.5k and adding a few mods)

i can imagine il spend a fair few miles in it...
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I know the diesels are fast Older 306's are smokey etc etc tho


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Jas
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faster u mean?

acceleration which r faster?
Colin
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Diesels will be dearer to buy but cheaper to run...if your planning on high miles then get a diesel otherwise get a petrol car
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason2004
faster u mean?

acceleration which r faster?



Diesels run out of steam at 3krpm I drive a 1.9td golf at work its nippy about town but on faster roads its a real let down!
Jas
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so a 1.4 306 petrol and a 1.9 306 diesel...

which wud be faster??

top end?
acceleration?
Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason2004
so a 1.4 306 petrol and a 1.9 306 diesel...

which wud be faster??

top end?
acceleration?


Neither are going to be that fast

Think id have the petrol out if those unless its a turbo diesel???

[Edited on 27-02-2005 by Kolin]
Jas
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i know neither will be fast... im only starting to drive so i cant really be getting anything powerful
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The 1.9DT will be quicker than the 1.4, especially over 60-70ish. It'll be better on fuel with the same top end roughly.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kolin
quote:
Originally posted by Jason2004
faster u mean?

acceleration which r faster?



Diesels run out of steam at 3krpm I drive a 1.9td golf at work its nippy about town but on faster roads its a real let down!


Mine aint slow on open roads tho
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if you;re getting a diesel engine at least get a turbo diesel!

normal diesels are slow as hell, whereas a TD will still give great mpg and performance.
bullitproof engines too
Claire
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Driving a 306 1.4 resembles the feeling of flogging a dead horse The 1.9D is also a bit crap. The TD/HDi's are alot better and there's very little in insurance costs. Personally I wouldn't have either the 1.4 or the N/A 1.9D when you could have a TD for next to nothing more...
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306 D Turbo is brilliant, really nippy and great on motorways, i'm sure my 306 would kill my 1.4 16v Corsa up a hill
Ren
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28th Feb 05 at 02:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

And then you woke up.
Neshol
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Pardon?
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get the 1.9 td 306, they're alot quicker than the 1.4 petrol, and you can turn the boost up on the turbo for extra horses! Loads of torque too


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Exactly. They have about the same bhp as a 1.4 16v, but bags more pulling power. Ok they may be crap at accelerating in the low gears, but in 5th it will pull like anything when you boot it, and they have about the same top end as the Vaux 1.4 (dunno how it compares to the Pug 1.4 tho).
Claire
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Pug 306 1.4 is not even funny
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Had a few drives in a standard 1.9D and 1.4 petrol 306s. Fuel wise there didn't seem much in it but power wise the petrol was much quicker.
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I wouldnt say 1.5 seconds to 60 is ALOT faster when we're talking about cars which take 15-16 seconds peanut. They are both slower than the TD
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None of the lower end 306 petrol models, nor the D/TD were made for off the line speed FFS. You don't expect the D to be quick, but if you floored it everywhere you'd get further in it than the 1.4. The TD is a bit quicker but it's not from the line.
No-one buys a car with a mechanically injected diesel (turbo) engine for speed anyway.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kolin
quote:
Originally posted by Jason2004
faster u mean?

acceleration which r faster?



Diesels run out of steam at 3krpm I drive a 1.9td golf at work its nippy about town but on faster roads its a real let down!


dunno what kind of diesel you have been driving!!! the max power on my corsa td was at 4400 rpm.
Michael B
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15th Apr 05 at 11:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah, on my diesel corsa it keeps giving power right up to that, but VW engines have a diff feel to them, they go really nice up to about 3000rpm, then you want to change, its just the feeling.. don't really go nicely past 3000rpm, but will!

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