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Jay

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16th May 05 at 13:19

I picked up the engine on friday and want to fit it now...

The mounts are sorted, what else do i need to get now?

Is it right that I can use my 1.2 shafts with mk2 cav inner CVs? Or is that just a "myth"

Ive got the 2.0 shafts here, ive heard about machining the hubs but wouldnt no where to take them and what to get done to them!

Any help will be appreciated please!

[Edited on 16-05-2005 by JayMSRi]

Ojc

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16th May 05 at 13:37

1.2 shafts? And these shafts are going to fit into larger hubs?

I take it you remember that you need larger hubs?

Jay

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16th May 05 at 13:42

Only going by what ive been told?

Jay

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16th May 05 at 13:54

bump

Jay

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16th May 05 at 13:59

1 Use the hubs from a 2.0/1.8 Cavelier/Astra/calibra and turn then down in a lathe to the exact same sizes as the original nova hub.
Make sure not to make the radiuses not to sharp. Use the original nova hub to copy all the dimensions.
Caution: The 2.0 hub is 3mm longer then the Nova hub.
Make sure you correct this when turning down the hub, otherwise your brake disc will touch the brake caliper, as the hub is 3mm more outside.
When changing the hubs the wheel bearing need to be changed as well. You can't get them of in one piece.
(These special hubs are available at M-tech as well).
When using the special hubs you'll need a spacer ring of 3mm between the CV joint and the bearing.

The drive shafts from the 2.0 must be shortened to the sizes 310mm and 660mm.

2 Let a local machine shop make completely new axles.

Got this off this site http://www.corsa-novatuning.nl/uk/PartsA.htm

willay

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16th May 05 at 14:03

people who have used shafts/hubs from cavs/whaetver normally run into problems, I dont know what exactly (i'm sure one of CS can tell us) but its alot of trouble.

If you invest your money into the proper hubs/shafts/mounts/sngsggnsdwhatever from people like M-tec (LMF stock their products) you are more likely to have a sound setup.

Jay

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16th May 05 at 14:08

Yeh but you have to wait ages dont you? Thats the only problem...

Jay

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16th May 05 at 14:09

And whats LMF? site?

willay

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16th May 05 at 14:10

Ages? No idea, you should really ring up and find out first.

Plus you may save yourself some heartbreak by buying the "proper" bits, and money in the long run.

willay

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16th May 05 at 14:10

http://www.lmfvauxhall.com/

R Lee

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16th May 05 at 14:20

LMF if they have the stuff on the shelf, they'll send it to you swiftly.

great service from the,.

BeArDy

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16th May 05 at 14:21

My Corsas................

Corsa 3lt V6 :-

running standard Cav Shafts with Cav hubs made to fit Corsa Barings, had them on my 2lt 16v aswell for about 8 months and never had a problem

Corsa 2lt 16v On carbs :-

running Standard Corsa 1.5 TD shafts with Cav 1.6 inner CV's Standard Corsa Hubs and Barings been on for ages and never had any problems

[Edited on 16-05-2005 by BeArDy]

[Edited on 16-05-2005 by BeArDy]

Jay

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16th May 05 at 14:35

Corsa 2lt 16v On carbs :-

running Standard Corsa 1.5 TD shafts with Cav 1.6 inner CV's Standard Corsa Hubs and Barings been on for ages and never had any problems

This is the way I was thinking! Will my 1.2 shafts hold up then or would u suggest shafts from a bigger engine?

BeArDy

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16th May 05 at 15:39

upto you mate
my corsa is running 186bhp and seam to be fine
how much is a standard corsa shaft £10-£15 how much are uprated ones

Jay

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16th May 05 at 16:29

Exactly! Cheaper in the long run i reckon, What else will I need then? Just the Mk2 Cav inners?

Twiggy

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16th May 05 at 16:32

quote:
Originally posted by JayMSRi
Exactly! Cheaper in the long run i reckon, What else will I need then? Just the Mk2 Cav inners?

Mental note ask JayMSRI in 6mths what he has had to replace!!! DO IT PROPPER!!!

supacook2k

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16th May 05 at 16:49

lmf vauxhall are great! ordered my v6 break upgrade and quickshift from them saturday and arrived this morning! qualiy service. so if you need anything get it from them

Siberia

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16th May 05 at 16:57

quote:
Originally posted by JayMSRi
Corsa 2lt 16v On carbs :-

running Standard Corsa 1.5 TD shafts with Cav 1.6 inner CV's Standard Corsa Hubs and Barings been on for ages and never had any problems

This is the way I was thinking! Will my 1.2 shafts hold up then or would u suggest shafts from a bigger engine?

are the 1.6 shafts going into a f20 box?

Jay

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16th May 05 at 17:36

What 1.6 shafts?

Jay

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16th May 05 at 17:38

quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT

quote:
Originally posted by JayMSRi
Exactly! Cheaper in the long run i reckon, What else will I need then? Just the Mk2 Cav inners?

Mental note ask JayMSRI in 6mths what he has had to replace!!! DO IT PROPPER!!!

Go for it, this is the way I want to do it... I asked how to do it without the fitting kit, I didnt want answers telling me to buy the fitting kit... dont mean to sound a cunt but, stick to the point

langey

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16th May 05 at 18:30

i iant used none of the proper kits, welding our own engine mount :s and i machined the hubs myself in work, beaucse thats my job

and i can afford to go thro about 15 shafts and 15 sets of hubs before i've spent the same money as the other hubs and shfts lol. hope i odnt go thro that many tho.

Jay

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16th May 05 at 20:12

Yeh I can make my own mount too...

Thats what i meant by cheaper in the long run, by the time youve broke that many shafts or hubs (if you do) it will take a good few to mount up to the £300 they are on cossvaux!

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