Simon
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ive just got my new hard drive in the post, ive plugged it in and it should be 250gb but only shows up as 233gb, ive heard there is a way of refomating it to get to these lost gb can that be done?
cheers
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PaulW
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no thats normal
1 byte has 1024 bytes, but harddisc manufacturers say 1000bytes is 1kb (which it isnt)
so added all up, what is 250gb to them (if 1kb = 1000bytes) is actually 233gb (1kb = 1024bytes)
dont worry about it!
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Simon
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oh right cool, cheers
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
no thats normal
1 byte has 1024 bytes, but harddisc manufacturers say 1000bytes is 1kb (which it isnt)
so added all up, what is 250gb to them (if 1kb = 1000bytes) is actually 233gb (1kb = 1024bytes)
dont worry about it!
1Kb is 1000 bytes. The manufacturers are correct to say it is.
1024 bits is a Kbi or something like that.
But regarding the original question 233gig is probably about right.
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PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by x8john
quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
no thats normal
1 byte has 1024 bytes, but harddisc manufacturers say 1000bytes is 1kb (which it isnt)
so added all up, what is 250gb to them (if 1kb = 1000bytes) is actually 233gb (1kb = 1024bytes)
dont worry about it!
1Kb is 1000 bytes. The manufacturers are correct to say it is.
1024 bits is a Kbi or something like that.
But regarding the original question 233gig is probably about right.
yes and no...
A PC only understands binary, 0's and 1's...
hard drive manufacturers calculate the size of a hard disk by using the decimal 10 system of 1000 bytes = one kilobyte, instead of the binary system where 1024 bytes = one kilobyte
The 1000 bytes you used does not translate to a full kilobyte.
BIT - the smallest unit of information a computer can use, either a 1 or 0, and all it knows how to use!
BYTE - consists of 8 bits which patterns one character which can be a letter, number or symbol For example, 01000001 = A
Kilobyte - consists of 1024 bytes which equals 1024 characters which equals about a page of double spaced text.
Megabyte - consists of 1,048,576 bytes which is enough bytes to hold a book of maybe 500 pages or more or a 50 page book if it contains graphics. A floppy disk can hold 1.44 Megabytes.
Gigabyte - consists of 1,073,741,824 bytes which is enough bytes to hold a complete set of encyclopedia including graphics, audio and video.
Terabyte - consists of one trillion bytes (1000 Gigabytes)
but have a read of this...
http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,60505,00.html
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Joff
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Oh no, you're missing 17gb!! 
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PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Oh no, you're missing 17gb!!
17gb which could be used to stash porn which could well be sent to you
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Simon
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Oh no, you're missing 17gb!!
17gb which could be used to stash porn which could well be sent to you
exactly 
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Joff
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Maybe you should buy an old 17gb hd to make up for lost space.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
quote:
Originally posted by x8john
quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
no thats normal
1 byte has 1024 bytes, but harddisc manufacturers say 1000bytes is 1kb (which it isnt)
so added all up, what is 250gb to them (if 1kb = 1000bytes) is actually 233gb (1kb = 1024bytes)
dont worry about it!
1Kb is 1000 bytes. The manufacturers are correct to say it is.
1024 bits is a Kbi or something like that.
But regarding the original question 233gig is probably about right.
yes and no...
A PC only understands binary, 0's and 1's...
hard drive manufacturers calculate the size of a hard disk by using the decimal 10 system of 1000 bytes = one kilobyte, instead of the binary system where 1024 bytes = one kilobyte
The 1000 bytes you used does not translate to a full kilobyte.
BIT - the smallest unit of information a computer can use, either a 1 or 0, and all it knows how to use!
BYTE - consists of 8 bits which patterns one character which can be a letter, number or symbol For example, 01000001 = A
Kilobyte - consists of 1024 bytes which equals 1024 characters which equals about a page of double spaced text.
Megabyte - consists of 1,048,576 bytes which is enough bytes to hold a book of maybe 500 pages or more or a 50 page book if it contains graphics. A floppy disk can hold 1.44 Megabytes.
Gigabyte - consists of 1,073,741,824 bytes which is enough bytes to hold a complete set of encyclopedia including graphics, audio and video.
Terabyte - consists of one trillion bytes (1000 Gigabytes)
but have a read of this...
http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,60505,00.html
Its just yes.
The hard drive manufacturers are technically correct as I said.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibit
That explains it.
Its called a mebibit if you are talking about 1024.
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Ren
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Dont forget, windows doesnt see more then a certain ammount of gigabytes. Not sure how much, but it could be why you're missing 17gb
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Ren
Dont forget, windows doesnt see more then a certain ammount of gigabytes. Not sure how much, but it could be why you're missing 17gb
Its because of what was described above.
The limit is 132 or 160 or something along those lines.
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Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by x8john
quote:
Originally posted by Ren
Dont forget, windows doesnt see more then a certain ammount of gigabytes. Not sure how much, but it could be why you're missing 17gb
Its because of what was described above.
The limit is 132 or 160 or something along those lines.
Way around this is to create the maximum size for the disk and then under Windows XP created a second partition for the rest of the space. Then do the installation of Windows XP again and delete the two partitions and create one big partition Odd but works 
Another way around this is to just stretch the drive using Partition Magic but i prefer the above way 
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James_DT
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Windows XP supports over 160gb.
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Maybe you should buy an old 17gb hd to make up for lost space.
But then he wouldn't get 17gb of useable space.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Peugeot Nut
quote:
Originally posted by x8john
quote:
Originally posted by Ren
Dont forget, windows doesnt see more then a certain ammount of gigabytes. Not sure how much, but it could be why you're missing 17gb
Its because of what was described above.
The limit is 132 or 160 or something along those lines.
Way around this is to create the maximum size for the disk and then under Windows XP created a second partition for the rest of the space. Then do the installation of Windows XP again and delete the two partitions and create one big partition Odd but works
Another way around this is to just stretch the drive using Partition Magic but i prefer the above way
Or use sp2 or maybe sp1 that supports it.
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