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Filby1

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17th Jun 05 at 12:12

Cally Turbo LET or the Sapphire Cossworth (Not RS 500)

Which one?

[Edited on 17-06-2005 by Filby1]

Jason Iles

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17th Jun 05 at 12:28

Cally should imagine due to the 4 wheel drive traction

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17th Jun 05 at 12:31

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Iles
Cally should imagine due to the 4 wheel drive traction

cossie could be 4x4 tho too

Teddy

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17th Jun 05 at 12:31

Standard Cossie will beat a cally turbo to 60mph buy 0.2 of a second - but then the cossie gets wasted by the vauxhall.

(assuming both cars are totally standard)

The above FACTS are taken from an Autocar test.

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17th Jun 05 at 12:32

Is the Cossie still holding it's value better than the equivalent Calibra/Cav?

Jason Iles

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17th Jun 05 at 12:34

quote:
Originally posted by boyracer2002

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Iles
Cally should imagine due to the 4 wheel drive traction
cossie could be 4x4 tho too ?

True but there aren't that many 4x4 Cossies are there??

I know the Calibras quick, my mates is rapid

TNM

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17th Jun 05 at 12:38

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Iles

quote:
Originally posted by boyracer2002

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Iles
Cally should imagine due to the 4 wheel drive traction
cossie could be 4x4 tho too ?

True but there aren't that many 4x4 Cossies are there??

I know the Calibras quick, my mates is rapid

Loads of sahp 4x4s!

Filby1

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17th Jun 05 at 12:47

Escort?

[Edited on 17-06-2005 by Filby1]

Teddy

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17th Jun 05 at 12:59

The report that im refering to is the Escort Cosworth vs a Cavalier Turbo..........

Its reads a little like this........

"Drivers of the Cosworth had better keep an eye over their shoulders or ignore the new Vauxhall Cavalier 4x4 Turbo at your peril........................"

"0-60 the Cosworth will just about dispatch the Cavalier buy 0.2 of a second. After this there is no arguement the Cav will hit 70mph from 30mph a full 0.5 seconds faster than the Cosworth and even more impressive is how the Cavalier will dispatch the Cosworth by nearly 1.5 seconds if the sprint was to hit a magic 110. Top speed there is no arguement either the Cosworth will hit a mighty 144mph whilst the Cavalier will storm on to 152mph"

Adam_B

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17th Jun 05 at 13:03

yes but how many standard cossies are there, not many i suspect

Adam_B

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17th Jun 05 at 13:04

having said that i actully know of one round the corner from me

but it never gets driven so it doesnt count

Filby1

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17th Jun 05 at 13:07

cool, i always thought the Cossworths where better but i was wrong then, which leaves the only other Cossworth to beat Vaux is the RS500?

Stu

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17th Jun 05 at 13:10

Still love the Escort Cosworth myself, great engine as well!

Wouldnt have a Calibra turbo, never really been a fan.

Filby1

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17th Jun 05 at 13:11

i no it showes its Age a hell of alot more than the Cosworth i aggre

[Edited on 17-06-2005 by Filby1]

Teddy

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17th Jun 05 at 13:12

RS500 would beat a Cav/Cally Turbo without a doubt........................

................hello Lotus Carlton - the LC would and i quote again..................

"The LC uses Cossies to wipe its bottom"

People are very quick to dismiss Vauxhall as a "performance" Car manufacture but you look at the facts and figures they just managed to keep it very quiet!

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17th Jun 05 at 13:12

EsCos would hand a cally or cav its arse

bring out the Lotus Carlton

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17th Jun 05 at 13:13

A saph cossie is a saph, a RS500 is a sierra completly diffrent car

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17th Jun 05 at 13:14

i would have RS500 or even just a 3 door over any vaux bar a HSR chevette and a LC

Teddy

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17th Jun 05 at 13:15

quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
EsCos would hand a cally or cav its arse
bring out the Lotus Carlton

Nah it wouldnt. Read the report i posted above - that was tested by autocar.

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17th Jun 05 at 13:15

and also as standard the cossie drivetrain is far superiour to the cally one

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17th Jun 05 at 13:15

quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
RS500 would beat a Cav/Cally Turbo without a doubt........................

................hello Lotus Carlton - the LC would and i quote again..................

"The LC uses Cossies to wipe its bottom"

People are very quick to dismiss Vauxhall as a "performance" Car manufacture but you look at the facts and figures they just managed to keep it very quiet!

Great minds Teddy

both posted at :12mins past

went to Performance Vauxhall in convoy with my friends dads LC, such a brute of a car!! His is running at approx 450bhp... and is clean as a whistle!

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17th Jun 05 at 13:15

quote:
Originally posted by jr
and also as standard the cossie drivetrain is far superiour to the cally one

How so?

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17th Jun 05 at 13:17

quote:
Originally posted by Teddy

quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
EsCos would hand a cally or cav its arse
bring out the Lotus Carlton

Nah it wouldnt. Read the report i posted above - that was tested by autocar.

Both in standard trim... surely the EsCos is faster even on the move??!

Either way, I have watched both on a track, at the same time, and the EsCos was walking all over the Callibra. Both standard bar suspension mod's

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17th Jun 05 at 13:19

Nah - the report which was with timing gear in simple terms.... the Cos will beat the Cav to 0-60 by 0.2 of a sec - then the Cav literally hands the Cos its whaletale back

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17th Jun 05 at 13:20

maybe superiour is the wrong word, as the cally was a clever design

but as standard you dont have the concern of lowering or rotataing tyres on the cossie, and its ony when you startign running big power on the 4x4 (mt75 box ???) that you have to worry about braking it

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