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maxhead
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   21st Oct 05 at 22:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

which is the better cams to go for kent or piper they all about £600 tho
and easy to fit its just the superchip that puzzling me are they hard to fit coz i know that it will have to go on the the roller to be tuned up

Ian
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Superchip can't be tuned.
maxhead
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ok then i was meant to say remapped and cus of the cams it would probably need to be put on the rollers right
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No the Superchip is designed for the standard car and won't take account of mods.

Have a search for 'unichip'.
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You could technically re-map a super chip, but what your after is mappable management like a unichip as ian said.
Dave A
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dont bother with cams unless you go for 'real' aftermarket management i.e omex or dta etc...

you cant dial the cams in without vernier pulleys and without a new ecu you cant fit the veriers.

spend the cash on a new inlet such as mantzel or lexmaul.
maxhead
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cheers lads i think that will be a good bit of advise do you think that just getting a cam kit would be alot more of an easier way of sorting things seeing as my cambelt needs changing really soon

i always got told told that if it breaks or worn out replace it with something modified
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if the cambelt needs changing, do it sooner rather than later, because if it lets go, you will be forking out for bent valves. get that sorted first, then look at a performance inlet manifold as an option. probably the best bang for your buck on a 16XE engine.
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oh yeah and when you get the cambelt done, make sure water pump, tensioners and rollers are replaced too. SBD (www.sbdev.co.uk) can supply metal tensioners, since the plastic ones have a habit of breaking easier than they should.
AK
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superchip do, or did, have kinda the same thing as unichip...

called ICON Race i think..

BUT its still shite
Dave A
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£600 on cams for a gain of maybe 4-5 bhp

complete waste of money. sort out the restrictive inlet first, then think about re-mapping.

i got 150+ bhp from my x16xe with a mantzel, ive now got throttle bodies and 160+ bhp. both were with standard cams.

all cams will do on a standard engine is push the power up the rev range and possibly lose low down torque. and make it run lumpy.

i know someone that had an c16xe with piper 164 cams 4 branch manifold and a unichip. only made 118 bhp. same engine with a mantzel (without the cams) and a re-map made 139 bhp.
RKS
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i thought that the std vaux ecu couldnt be re-mapped?
Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by --Rikki--
i thought that the std vaux ecu couldnt be re-mapped?


it cant as such, unless you put a mappable e-prom in. (mappable chip)

 
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