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Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 14:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Am i right in thinking, my wireless connection at home doesnt have any security, so someone could walk up to the house with a wireless laptop, and view any files that happen to be shared over the network?
e.g if i have sage installed on one main PC, and i have to allow 2 other PCs to access that PC, that someone couldview that?

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28th Oct 05 at 14:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

depends, if its got a password or not
Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 14:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if what has a password?
I know there is no security password on the wireless connection.
Russ
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28th Oct 05 at 14:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

when you add computers dont you have a really long code to type in to each device that wants to connect?
Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 14:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

for what???? lol

Sage? no.

The router? no.
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28th Oct 05 at 14:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

depends if you are WIP'd up
Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 14:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

??? talk english lol
Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 14:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the router has DCHP enabled i reckon.
Russ
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28th Oct 05 at 14:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

jesus christ, you kids, why waste money on wireless technology if your thick

do you have a network key aka WPA or WEP key?
Russ
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28th Oct 05 at 14:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Bart
the router has DCHP enabled i reckon.


thats nice
Ian
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28th Oct 05 at 14:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If they join your network, and you have shares, of course they can.
Bart
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i think there is a chance there might be a WEP key, but i do know i dont have to enter the key in order to connect to the router in order to go on the net.

Its not actually my network, is someone else, and he does have sage on the PCs, and 3/4 other PCs use that main sage PC as the server.
Ian
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28th Oct 05 at 14:56   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Where does he live
Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 14:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
If they join your network, and you have shares, of course they can.


bloody hell... someone who can just answer the questions... thanks lol.


thats what i thought.
Russ
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28th Oct 05 at 15:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well its fuckin obvious!

Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 15:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah, i just wanted to be 100% sure before i tell him that the professional company he paid to do that for him wants lining up against a wall shooting.
Russ
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28th Oct 05 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

oh lol
Ian
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28th Oct 05 at 15:08   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The router has DHCP enabled, so your guy parked outside gets assigned an address.

He then runs a sweep of pings on the subnet which he's been assigned to look for other computers, or he might not even need to do that if he gets number 5. Just try 4,3,2,1.

He goes opens a the c$ UNC share and logs on as administrator with no password and has a root around the whole hard drive. Quick look around Documents and Settings get some cookies / Outlook dbx files so he can take the file and read your mail offline and take his time over it. Hopefully in the mail are other passwords to other services etc.

Maybe download My Documents if it looks interesting etc.

This is happening as quick as you're reading this as well, woudn't take long.
Ian
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28th Oct 05 at 15:10   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ps. I'm assuming default configs here, it might not be that easy.

I would do a proper audit before coming to any conclusions about the company who did it.
Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 15:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

audit as in check what?

i know there is no network security for the wireless.
im off there in a min. if i can connect to any accounts computers then im gonna let him know
Ian
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28th Oct 05 at 15:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just run a few checks, basically try what I just posted.
Bart
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28th Oct 05 at 15:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

never used/looked at the unc thing.
i just had a quick google at it, and talks about using it in dos.
but ive never tried anything like it.
Is there some quick commands i cant try?
Ian
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28th Oct 05 at 16:12   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Start -> Run

\\192.168.0.2\c$

replace the 2 with whatever machine you want to look at. Might also be like

\\10.0.0.2

\\10.0.0.4

whatever.

If you join the laptop and it acquires a DHCP address, do a Start -> Run -> cmd on that and type ipconfig

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

The 2 is your own address, the 1 is the gateway, your target machines will probably be in the middle of those two numbers as you're last to arrive.

 
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