a_j_mair
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right got the cylinder head off and the gasget is shot between no. 2 & 3
excellent, obviously found 1 problem 
another thing i noticed was the 2 of the valves on the front of the engine on both sides were a light brown colour pic to follow
Some of the valves look as if they are not sitting completely flush, should they all be ?
trying to get camera to work just now
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Robin
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valves would not all sit flush, cams would be holding 4 of them slightly open
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corsa_godfather
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would that not be to do with the gasket being broken that there browny?
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Robin
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need pics to diagnose problem really
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AK
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all valves should be flush when the head is off and under the tension of the valve springs.
Strip the head and clean everything (valves etc)
replace valve stem seals.
Check valves are straight, then regrind valve seats..
not that hard a job with the right tools
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Robin
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quote: Originally posted by AK
all valves should be flush when the head is off and under the tension of the valve springs.
Strip the head and clean everything (valves etc)
replace valve stem seals.
Check valves are straight, then regrind valve seats..
not that hard a job with the right tools
the valves on my 1.6 stayed slightly open when the head was off, unless you turned the cams
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Jake
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quote: Originally posted by AK
all valves should be flush when the head is off and under the tension of the valve springs.
Strip the head and clean everything (valves etc)
replace valve stem seals.
Check valves are straight, then regrind valve seats..
not that hard a job with the right tools
and alot of patience, especially with the stem seals
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a_j_mair
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trying to get pics up just now but the camera dock isnt working
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AK
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i thought cams were off...
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myke
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rotate the cams and watch each set of valves in turn.
the lobes hold a few open whilst its at rest
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a_j_mair
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uploading now
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Dave A
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valve position is fine. got a pic of the head gasket?
looks like it was broke between 2&3?
[Edited on 16-11-2005 by corsa808]
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a_j_mair
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yep it was broke between 2 and 3. no pic tho.
So all i need to do now is strip cylinder head, fit new valve stem seals and reassemble?
on second pic down
the 2 valves closet to camera second to the left are definetly ok, the are slightly raised
Beginning to worry that i put it back together and fuck up all the timing etc
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Ryan_G1
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Are the valves sitting flush at the oppisite side from it is open? Where in ayrshire you from?
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myke
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can't tell from the pics but are both of the mounting surfaces still flat where the breach was?
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Dave A
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head looks fine. valve position looks fina as well. the only way they could be bent is if the cam has twisted (100% not going to happen) or contact with the pistons. (no sign of that from the pics)
might as well get the head done properly, new seals, skim, re-grind the valves etc....
[Edited on 16-11-2005 by corsa808]
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Ryan_G1
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Are the cams still in the head when the pics were taken?
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a_j_mair
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live outside mauchline
yep both side seem flush with no damage.
I have all the seals for the head gasket.
re-grind? what is this and what is the benifits
I am a novice with engines but only one way to learn, and im doing it
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corsa_godfather
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mines would look good in ur car 
standard engine with janspeed manifold £250
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Ryan_G1
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Well if you need a hand gimme a shout. Im a mechanic and stay in kilmarnock
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a_j_mair
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when are you free could be some beer in it for you 
not the engine would have the manifold off you tho ?
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Ryan_G1
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What you needing a hand doing mate?
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a_j_mair
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just wanting to change the head gasket and all associated seals check cylinder head is ok.
Think i mite get a valve spring compressor tomorrow and try do it all myself, just wouldnt mind having someone knowing what they are doing with regards to it all going back together and the timing etc all being spot on
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Ryan_G1
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is the egine out of the car? I will give you a hand mate, just need to get a few of my hommers cleared up the now
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