langey
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what exactly do i need for TB's to work?
a list of everything that will be needed wil be much appriciated, trying to see if it can b done cheaper than buying a kit for ££££ 
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James R
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TB's
trumpets
fuel rail
pressure reg
coil pack
blanking plate
loom ecu
throttle linkage
airfilter
Mapping
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by j1400
TB's
trumpets
fuel rail
pressure reg
coil pack
blanking plate
loom ecu
throttle linkage
airfilter
Mapping
and:
manifold
throttle position switch
air temp sensor
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Toby
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what price for all that do you reckon??and TB's or turbo??
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langey
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Originally posted by CorsaB4ever
what price for all that do you reckon??and TB's or turbo??
how about you get your own thread 
any links to where to get parts from? had a search on google but only comes up with one place in the uk, and the rest are american sites and for stupid fat arse american cars 
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ed
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You would normally buy a kit Langey. Works out a better deal  Best places to speak to are:
SBD: http://www.sbdev.co.uk
QED: Not sure, search for Quorn Engine Developments on Google
Alpha: http://www.webcon.co.uk - click on Alpha turnkey kits and take a look at the gold kit.
You need to make the descision on whether you want paralel or taper throttle bodys too.
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langey
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whats the difference in parallel and taper TB's?
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langey
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10grand for the 290+ kit
must be able to get it at a better price than that just need someone who's already got the set up or proper drawing and dimentions
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willay
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you cheap monkey.
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James R
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according to SBD tapers are the best thign since sliced bread. I just think they are more expensive.
Just get QED DTA bodies (no need for a manifold then)
40mm trumpets,
aitfilter,
Make your own linkage.
ecu loom and sesnors and you're away
will still be abotu 1300
but thats much less.
Really you want a new exhaust manifodl as the std ones restrive on TB's. and mapping, whihc must be done, or there's no pint putting TB's on
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
whats the difference in parallel and taper TB's?
Parallel TB's are like a fuel injected version of a twin carb, like a Webber. They use an inlet manifold and are pretty good. But the ulitmate set up is a tapered TB which starts out wide and tapers inwards gradually as the TB gets to the port on the head. This increases air speed and therefore torque. They are also individually tunable so you can work for a perfect set up.
Though for a good 180bhp-200bhp on a 2.0 16v you could just go for a basic parallel kit from SBD which will set you back about £1500, then get the cams and exhaust manifold. With TB's it's all about the cams you use at the end of the day, I wouldn't go too wild on a road car though...
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James R
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Originally posted by ed
Parallel TB's are like a fuel injected version of a twin carb, like a Webber. They use an inlet manifold and are pretty good. But the ulitmate set up is a tapered TB which starts out wide and tapers inwards gradually as the TB gets to the port on the head. This increases air speed and therefore torque. They are also individually tunable so you can work for a perfect set up.
Std is Std inlet
OllyH's is Direct to head QED jobs
Oddballs are 48mm parallel's + headwork
Dave B's are tapers
From the plots in torque you can see, tapers aren't as amazing as they are made out to be. THey are only any better from 5k up that the std and DTH's.
By 6k they are no different to the DTH's but the parallel's are why ahead and at 8k if you want to go that far on a std engine, they're still only as good as big parallels.
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Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
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Originally posted by CorsaB4ever
what price for all that do you reckon??and TB's or turbo??
how about you get your own thread
any links to where to get parts from? had a search on google but only comes up with one place in the uk, and the rest are american sites and for stupid fat arse american cars
just wandad out of curiosity not planning it
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Ry_B
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just wandad out of curiosity not planning it
Wandad?
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Dave A
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speak to bernie at novatech, he will do you a fantastic price on a full set-up parralell throttle bodies (think matt h has this kit) fantastic bit of kit, i have them on my x16xe. dont get all confused with parallell and taper kits, they both work the sale and give the same results.
top quality, in my opinion far superior to jenvey etc... (ive had both)
they are on 1753 696 216
if you do get in touch with berie tell him dave sent you
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Toby
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Originally posted by Rcb
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just wandad out of curiosity not planning it
Wandad?
leave it out hard day!!!!!!!!!
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ed
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Ah, another benfit of direct to head throttle bodys is you get a bit more room between the engine and the bulkhead, as far as I have heard anyway...
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