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RKS
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23rd Jan 06 at 13:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just after opinions really!

At the moment i'm on 17's and dropped 60mm on springs, my car is feels really light on the front when giving it a little round the bends,

I know coilovers will help big time, but i'm also wondering if its worth getting a front strut brace (upper and lower?) and also uprating the ARB (its got the std SRi ARB on at present), is it worth doing this before getting coilovers or after getting coilovers?
mwg
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23rd Jan 06 at 13:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Smaller wheels will help.

I dont have any problems with mine on 17s with just springs and shocks and no strut braces?
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smaller wheels and lift the car to about 40mm drop

ARB will promote understeer in the wet.... not always the best solution
RKS
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i knew smaller wheels were going to be recommended!! dont really want to change them, but might get some 16's as a bit of a compromise between looks/performance
RKS
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it understeers in the wet at present, so dont really want to make that any worse, as it is a daily drive
R Lee
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corsa + twisties = impossible
anybody that tells you their car is ace on bends is Pinnochios friend, or has big balls and doesn't mind dying.

but yeah, 15's, decent suspension. you don't want the front end to be anymore stiffer than it is.
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Whiteline rear Anti roll bars are nice. about £100 from demon tweeks.
RKS
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i know it wont ever be amazing on the bends, just want to make it a bit better than it currently is,

so basically if I make the front end stiffer this will give me understeer? i assume a rear ARB wont enhance the understeer as its at the back of the car?
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stiffer front end will only make it understeer on loose gravel and in the wet. I found the rear ARB improved the initial turn in and the car now seems less prone to lift off oversteer.
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee
corsa + twisties = impossible
anybody that tells you their car is ace on bends is Pinnochios friend, or has big balls and doesn't mind dying.


mine is
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gut it, stick a cage in, helps it no end!
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My old corsa was

Lowered 50mm on Bilstein kit
16" wheels
front and rear strut brace

handled rather well
RKS
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going to revive this thread as I think I need more info on the topic since this thread I have fitted a front strut brace and removed the rear spoiler I had (the spoiler was pushed the rear down and therefore making the front light)

but really I need info on ARB's front / rear arguments for and against, and is it worth doing the arb's before changing the shocks or should I change the shocks first
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Sorry but I doubt removing the spoiler has made a difference, its only a Corsa not a F1 car.
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quote:
Originally posted by --Rikki--
removed the rear spoiler I had (the spoiler was pushed the rear down and therefore making the front light)


pics?
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mine goes round corners quite well now

lowered 60mm on coilovers, 15" wheels with low profiles, front strut (made quite abit of difference) even got a bit of oversteer on a high speed corner
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tie bar spacers.. i have had 3 corsa's now and tie bar spacers on only one, handling was much better on that one
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why not get a front and rear anti-roll bar dave a ? he currently has a group buy on these, work wonders for handling
RKS
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quote:
Originally posted by joe6886
Sorry but I doubt removing the spoiler has made a difference, its only a Corsa not a F1 car.


I appreciate what your saying and i didnt think that it would make a difference but it did
RKS
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Originally posted by 01DHartley
why not get a front and rear anti-roll bar dave a ? he currently has a group buy on these, work wonders for handling


I'm considering this and almost deffinatly getting a rear one, but am curious if it will be a waste of time on standard shocks
RKS
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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rikkic/latestpics/corsa-spoiler.jpg the top plane was at quite an angle compared to the car

when I took it off it deffinatly felt less light on the front end, its still in the shed so can put it back on to see if I feel a different back again
Joe
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Fuck me that thing would stop a plane on a conveyor belt taking off
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2 saxo spoliers one is bad, 2 is ermm....worse

take them off, put just the corsa one back on on its own, wont help handling but will help looks

as for front anti roll bar, i found i didnt need mine on with coilovers as it just made it understeer more
RKS
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quote:
Originally posted by bieransri
2 saxo spoliers one is bad, 2 is ermm....worse

take them off, put just the corsa one back on on its own, wont help handling but will help looks

as for front anti roll bar, i found i didnt need mine on with coilovers as it just made it understeer more


They are off, just the corsa one on there now (for at least 6 months or more now), at the time of doing them they looked good, and i do still like them, but do prefur the car without them
RKS
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattb
tie bar spacers.. i have had 3 corsa's now and tie bar spacers on only one, handling was much better on that one


what do the tie bar spacers do/where do they go on the tiebar? and how will they make the handling better?

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