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Rob B
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17th Aug 06 at 10:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Obviously the 4 bhp extra the C has but what else is different, is the exhaust system the same ? and what are the torque figures for the two??

Thanks Rob.
Butler
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17th Aug 06 at 11:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I know the inlet is different, thats about all
Rob_Lee
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17th Aug 06 at 11:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Inlet is plastic on the C16xe

X16xe and EGR crap and SAI

Exhaust system is the same

Bigger valves on the C16XE

C16xe has airflow meter X16xe has MAP sensor

Different throttle body

ummm..... think thats it

[Edited on 17-08-2006 by Rob_Lee]
Rob B
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17th Aug 06 at 11:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so i can put my full exhaust system off my car onto the one with the c16xe ?
Dave A
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17th Aug 06 at 11:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes
csweatherston
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thought the throttle body was the same
theres an extra oilway drilling in the c16 head too

yes the exhaust will fit, but not the standard x16 manifold cuz of the sai hole.
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18th Aug 06 at 09:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

different compression, c16 has 2Nm more torque, but 500rpm lower, and 2kW more at 500rpm lower. inlet vavle diameters are slightly larger on the c16 too
James R
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18th Aug 06 at 10:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

head gasket is thinner on the C, making the CR 11:1 not 10.5:1

inlet cam is supposedly different, but not been able to measure this still.

EGR ports are cast in the C head, but the lower manifold blocks it off.

The manifold, down pipe and cat are different, but a X will bot on fine.

everything else has been covered already.

Cybermonkey
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18th Aug 06 at 11:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

James, the pistons must run real close to the head on the C16XE. they were on the X16XE and thats with a thicker gasket...
James R
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well vx seemed to get it right. lol.

it's only a few points of a millimietre different though.
Cybermonkey
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they still run damn close though. any timing error and imagine the piston slap. i guess thats why these engines fail so catastrophically from a belt failure.
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11:1 on the c?? really! im running 11.5:1 on mine, thought they were 9.5:1 standard
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Broster, its even higher than the X16XE's 10.5:1

 
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