Tom J
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Anyone know if there is anyway of becoming an architect sooner after you have done a degree in something else? Should hopefully have an LLB in Law but don't think i want to do an LPC to become a solictor at the end of it. To become an architect is it a five year course even if you already have a degree?
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Cosmo
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Im guessing if the other degree was in something to do with it then yeah, but I doubt Law will help with it much!
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Davidp18
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as far as im aware mate no im in my 2nd year of an architecture degree at the moment and its not 5 yrs part 1 is 3 years long then u take a year out in practice part 2 is 2 years long followed by a nother year out in practice and then theres one final year left after that till u can actually call yourself an architect is a very long drawn out course
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Cosmo
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6 years total at uni (or wherever) and 2 years work experience 
8 yrs total? Its less to become a doctor!
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Davidp18
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yep is a ridicolous amount of time especially when we mess around most of it,it could probably be sandwiched into half the time,and is nowhere near as well paid as other jobs
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ed
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Not really rediculous. You are designing buildings. You can't fuck about there, and once you are qualified and have a few years under your belt you can be earning a shit load.
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a_j_mair
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is 5 years at uni and 2in a practice to become a chartered architect
i did an hnd in architectural technology and could have went to 3rd year of architecture
with a law degree you mite manage to get into 2nd year but if you have no genral knowledge of the course you would be fucked
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Simon
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Yep 7 years total, Im in my 3rd now, got to find a placement for next year, handed in my dissertation yesterday, party!
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Jules S
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Yep 7 years total, Im in my 3rd now, got to find a placement for next year, handed in my dissertation yesterday, party!
Being an Architect is probably the worst paid worst loved professions i can think of.
It's probably the bitchiest too, don't ever expect any praise from your peers....only criticism.
The only good Architects I know are self centred egotists who couldn't give a shite what people say about them and their designs. Hardly a character trait I would aspire to 
The only up side is driving down the road and seeing a building you have designed....thats usually short lived before your passenger (who knows sod all about architecture) pipes up with 'I dont really like that'
The biggest downer about the job is the constant arse covering.....I hope you enjoy minuting every phone call, conversation and meeting. Have you scratched the surface of BREEAM yet?
Believe me, these days an Architect spends less than 5% of their time designing buildings
Sorry for the rant, it's been a long and tiring week
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Tiesto
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I would never beocme one personally. The amount of hassle and workload involved is immense, every small detail you have to specify, building regs, planning etc.
That's just my opinion, and most architect's i've dealt with are very sour, and hard to get a conversation going i find.
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Tom J
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cheers for the info guys i think i'll look into something else 
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MikeE
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Originally posted by ed
Not really rediculous. You are designing buildings. You can't fuck about there, and once you are qualified and have a few years under your belt you can be earning a shit load.
very true ed!
some architects make me wounder tho we did a loft conversion and he wanted us to use 8x2 rafters fair enough but 4x 8x 2's to form the ridge so it was 8x8 in total wtf overkill, but at end of the day they want to be extra safe to cover there back which is fair enough
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MikeE
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Originally posted by Tiesto
I would never beocme one personally. The amount of hassle and workload involved is immense, every small detail you have to specify, building regs, planning etc.
That's just my opinion, and most architect's i've dealt with are very sour, and hard to get a conversation going i find.
i do agree with you also after this week but i agree with ed too.
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Jules S
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Originally posted by Tiesto
I would never beocme one personally. The amount of hassle and workload involved is immense, every small detail you have to specify, building regs, planning etc.
That's just my opinion, and most architect's i've dealt with are very sour, and hard to get a conversation going i find.
i do agree with you also after this week but i agree with ed too.
Not all Architects are 'sour'  these days with all the consultation required an aloof Architect is going to find themselves redundant PDQ 
As for earning a 'shit load' after 3 year post qual? dream on....I would pay a good technician more these days, indeed last time we looked for staff we took on 2 Architects with detailing experience because they cost less 
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Tiesto
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Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by MikeE
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Originally posted by Tiesto
I would never beocme one personally. The amount of hassle and workload involved is immense, every small detail you have to specify, building regs, planning etc.
That's just my opinon, and most architect's i've dealt with are very sour, and hard to get a conversation going i find.
i do agree with you also after this week but i agree with ed too.
Not all Architects are 'sour' these days with all the consultation required an aloof Architect is going to find themselves redundant PDQ
As for earning a 'shit load' after 3 year post qual? dream on....I would pay a good technician more these days, indeed last time we looked for staff we took on 2 Architects with detailing experience because they cost less
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RichR
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I'm a Naval Architect! not that it has much relevance to the thread but I have architect in my job title.
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Tiesto
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Out of interest Jules S, what company do you work for?
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Jules S
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Out of interest Jules S, what company do you work for?
For my sins, I work in Local authority designing schools.
Formerly worked in private pratice specialising in listed buildings (in bath) and nursing homes. It was fun back then, too much paperwork now
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Tiesto
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Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by Tiesto
Out of interest Jules S, what company do you work for?
For my sins, I work in Local authority designing schools.
Formerly worked in private pratice specialising in listed buildings (in bath) and nursing homes. It was fun back then, too much paperwork now
I'd like to do that
We have done some design for infrastruture for schools before, if you need some structural or civil engineering 
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Jules S
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Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by Tiesto
Out of interest Jules S, what company do you work for?
For my sins, I work in Local authority designing schools.
Formerly worked in private pratice specialising in listed buildings (in bath) and nursing homes. It was fun back then, too much paperwork now
I'd like to do that
We have done some design for infrastruture for schools before, if you need some structural or civil engineering
I use so many consultants now ive lost count
As an aside, I generally wont employ a structural engineer unless....
They take on the remediation....thats VERY important
They take on drainage/SUDS...also important
Civils in my schemes tend to be dealt with by the landscape Architect and structural engineer and overseen/project manged by myself.
Nightmare job mine is
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Simon_16v
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Ever thought abuot becoming a Mechanical Engineer?
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Dean B
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I wanted to become an Architect. Looked into whilst at college doing my BTEC. Decidied not to go to uni to do it, and got an apprenticeship as an electrical engineer. I have never looked back, and i'm debt free, unlike most of my friends, earning a very good wage
[Edited on 26-01-2007 by Dean B]
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Simon_16v
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How much you on dean? My friend is on his 2nd year of a NC of electrical engineer.
Im on my first year of NC on mechanical engineer.
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Dean B
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How much you on dean? My friend is on his 2nd year of a NC of electrical engineer.
Im on my first year of NC on mechanical engineer.
I'm in my 3rd year atm. I earn about 430 a week before tax.
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Simon_16v
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Hey thats not bad like, im thinking of staying on at uni to do a foundation degree in it if i can be bothered lol
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