willhouse
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Bought a Wizards of Nos kit from a guy on mig a week or so ago,
finally got it all plumbed, wired in and tested last night.
i was a bit nervous about fitting it at first as with any new engine mod you do, but i was also experimenting as i have not yet heard of a 2l ecotec to have been run on nos yet, but we got it wired in and did the normal tests, plugs were all a nice colour with even distribution.
then gave it a better run and even on the testing 25bhp jets at the minute it is superb. the torque is hugely noticable now even though it was torquey before it is a huge difference, pulling up a hill from low rpm it just pulls like a turbo diesel and keeps going all around the rev range.
im really happy with it so far, going to be putting 50 jets in tonight or tommorow and i will get some pictures up too later on.
[Edited on 01-06-2007 by willhouse]
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willhouse
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just by the way the first person to mention that it will damage my engine or it wont last long i want a full explaination as to why it will when running nitrous
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PaulW
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BANG
nah joking aside...
running a sensible amount (like that) on a known good engine will be fine aslong as its in moderation 
out of interest, how much a refills now??
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Cupra Steve
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Fair play.
stupid question! does a 25bhp jet give you 25bhp?
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willhouse
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i can get refills for about £35 for my 11lb bottle
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PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
Fair play.
stupid question! does a 25bhp jet give you 25bhp?
no... its just a rating used on the size of the jets, gains vary from engine to engine...
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willhouse
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
Fair play.
stupid question! does a 25bhp jet give you 25bhp?
i said 25 jets, but they are actually a 50 nitrous jet and a 20 fuel jet, which does equate to 25bhp and 25lb/ft torque.
for the 50bhp it will be a 100 nitrous jet and a 40 fuel jet as it goes up in a ratio.
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Cupra Steve
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Thanks Paul.
Get it on the rollers to see how much gain your getting willhouse, will be very interested.
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willhouse
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
Fair play.
stupid question! does a 25bhp jet give you 25bhp?
no... its just a rating used on the size of the jets, gains vary from engine to engine...
yeah it does differ, using a bottle heater makes a change to what ratio you use and other things can differ the ratio and size of jets to be used
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Stu
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Nice one matey! Fair play to you! Like most engine mods........as long as you do it sensibly then I reckon it will be right!!!!
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paul.mitchell1984
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ooo nice one, will this be mking an appearance at the next wakefield meet then?
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PaulW
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does it shift aswell as this??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmRRDmW4DUs
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Rob_Lee
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nice video of the car on ramps Paul!
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PaulW
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without wheels I might add 
engine still sounds like a bag of spanners too
its gona come out of the car next week, do the bottom end and refit the head again with some new lifters...
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willhouse
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quote:
Originally posted by paul.mitchell1984
ooo nice one, will this be mking an appearance at the next wakefield meet then?
yeah ill be at the Wakefield meeting. Simon will be up in his astra xe too at the next one, he has nitrous aswell. 
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paul.mitchell1984
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so yo uoys will be playing then haha, i ned to do sumet wi mine its soooo low i could run faster haha still gotta love the 1.0l 12volt cars
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Nick-S
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I once herd you can get beta gain from nitrous fitting them to a diesel. any 1 else every herd this b4
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Rob_Lee
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I've got a direct port WON kit to put on the nova
Cant wait... hoping to get it all fitted at PVS!
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willhouse
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quote:
Originally posted by GSi_16v
I once herd you can get beta gain from nitrous fitting them to a diesel. any 1 else every herd this b4
diesels run superb on nos, my mate has it on has cav td and ran a 15.2 at york raceway last year on a slipping clutch, all he had done to it then was upped boost & fuel and running nos.
he has a bigger turbo, external wastegate, water/methanol injection and nitrous injection and a new clutch now so he's hoping to break 14's when we go again on the 17th June.
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willhouse
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Lee
I've got a direct port WON kit to put on the nova
Cant wait... hoping to get it all fitted at PVS!
make sure you get on the wizards website to read up on the tests you need to do to make sure its running correctly. dont rush it to get it done as you need to make sure everything is done properly, even down to routing hoses correctly.
also as you have tb's i was wondering if you have had a remap? if so you need to check if you timing has been retarded or advanced as this can cause major problems with detonation.
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willhouse
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few pictures of the install
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Jules
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Watch the welds on the inlet manifold and check your floorpan for signs of it peeling up when in a street race situation!
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Rob_Lee
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Floorpan checked and also got laptop ready
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules
Watch the welds on the inlet manifold and check your floorpan for signs of it peeling up when in a street race situation!
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willhouse
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules
Watch the welds on the inlet manifold and check your floorpan for signs of it peeling up when in a street race situation!
theres always one 
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