eastend
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could the 1.4 16v x14xe ever get upto the speed of a 106 gti, same 0 - 60 i mean, whatevr mods are needed just is it possible??
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by eastend]
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nova_gteuk
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No the 106 gti is unbeatable,fastest car on uk roads as far as i know. 
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eastend
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lol im only asking because i would love to beat one in a 1.4 seeing as everyone that has them bum them lol
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by eastend]
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matt_aka_smiler
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i know what you mean mate. i do like the cars and yes there nippy but its a corsa website and theres always someone to say 106 GTi this and that it realy gets annoying now
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eastend
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so do you think its possible??
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jay kay
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yes a 1.4 16v could but would need alot of money thrown
JR had a fast 1.4
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eastend
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what mods are needed and how much money is needed?? cheers
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jay kay
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not sure tbh probs inlet , full exhaust decat , cams not sure on prices as it depends what you get
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Eck
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Having a corsa that weighs as much as a fag packet will be a good start  JR's is ridiculously light 
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eastend
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well i have an inlet so i am on my way haha
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jay kay
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you may aswell shove some tb's on it
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Vaux Lad
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1-Fit turbo
2-Beat 106
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jay kay
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3 blow up
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Robin
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In theory, (ignoring gear ratios, drag co-efficient and tyre sizes) you'd need a car the same weight and same power, and it would match it.
So, lighter and more powerful = faster.
You need more than 130bhp (which is possible, throttle bodies would give you 145-150, maybe a little more with the right other spec) and about 750kg (I think, maybe less) which is the hard part.
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eastend
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how do you go about getting throttle bodies, websites??
are they very expensive
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Paul_J
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well considering most tuned 1.6's struggle - give up with a 1.4!
There was a guy on here years ago essex racer, had a properly tuned up 1.4 and still couldn't touch a 106 gti.
Jr's was quick, but only did mid 15's 1/4 mile I believe, when my car just had an exhaust and filter I was doing low 15's with all interior.
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James R
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Think you'll find wieght wise there's not much in it, you are down 30+BHP and I have no idea what the gearing is like compared on the two.
Just hope you don't have to go in to a roundabout with one side by side in a corsa.
I'm not saying 106GTi's are amazing, paul knows what I'm talking about  205's for the win
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gunzi
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If this X14XE was in a Nova SR then you'd just need the inlet filter & exhaust to keep up with one. 780kgs & ~110bhp = 140+bhp per ton. Obviously the 1.6XE with those mods would leave it for dead.
TB's are expensive unless you go the Bike TB route, but that is a kind of new area that not many people have delved into yet.
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Rob B
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You think it would leave it for dead but i bet it wouldnt
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gunzi
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What because the 106gti has 165bhp per ton pmsl
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K2 GTi
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I know someone who has a 1.4 nova sr.. has cams inlet manifold and exhaust and is mapped and my 106 only just beats it... suprised me really
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by K2 GTi]
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Rob B
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no because rob_lee had a x16xe in a stripped out nova, so was probably around 110 bhp and 780 kgs, and he could get 15.3's up the quarter, gti's do that standard..... next question ? its not just about matching bhp/ton, its about the way the power is delivered aswell and the gear ratios.
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gunzi
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you're judging from a standing start, how often do you race like that?
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Rob B
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ok, well the gearing on gti's is better than a x14xe, so on the road it would be the same story.
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gunzi
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You were picking my point up on the 1.6 not the 1.4.
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