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Ash_EP3
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Hi people,

I think it would be a good idea for someone to write down a list of all the noticeable "REALISTIC" power gains that people are likely to see by putting mods onto their cars...


By summer next year I should have:
- Induction kit
- Janspeed Manifold
- Inlet Manifold (ebay one)
- Full exhaust system
& possibly a remap...

How much bhp do you think I should see from all of these?

Thanks
flybikeslee
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130bhp as a guess. what im hoping for with similar things
Steve X16XE
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I've got 125.2 BHP and 115 lbft with this spec.

Drilled air box, K&N panel filter, Mantzel inlet manifold, 4-1 pro-tech exhaust manifold, Exhaust UK de-cat and backbox.

Plus a remap i'd think it'd get to 130 bhp.
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117 on a 1.4
128 on a 1.6
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I had 130bhp with that spec, but my inlet was a Lexmaul, which would mean less power than the ebay ones, possibly. Although, my filter was a Viper, which means more power than an open cone.

I guess 130-132.
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Robin, was yours remaped?
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Yeah, with a 7200rpm rev limit.
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130 bhp, nice perhaps I can keep up with 106 GTI's and VTS ???
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my mates sport beats gti`s and vts en its just got a Pipercross Induction decatd and a janspeed manifold
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it shouldnt. but fair play if it does

wouldnt say that so much though mate you'll get slaughtered on here i had about 12 witnesses who saw me beat a vtr in my 1.4 sport but no one believed me
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for the price of these mods isn't it just better to drop a 2.0 8v or save some extra and get a redtop?

i was also going to tune my 1.6 but for the mods you list that'll be pretty much £1000 - nearly conversion territory surely?

i always ask myself is it really worth spending that money to then just about keep up with 106 gti's and saxo vts'... lol


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^^ lol yea I know what you mean mate, but I am able to get some of the stuff mentioned above cheap.....

however I am not sure on how much a remap would cost?????

I calculated the cost at being around £600/700 not £1000 thats hardly conversion territory!
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quote:
Originally posted by aron85


i always ask myself is it really worth spending that money to then just about keep up with 106 gti's and saxo vts'... lol





even with a redtop conversion your still only keeping up with vts and gti
Steve X16XE
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Those that are keeping up with a GTI/VTS with an XE need to pull the mats out from behind the peddles!!!

I've payed £700 for all my mods. Been told that a remap is about £300.

So yeah, £1k is reasonable.
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£300 for a remap! F**k that I'll get it cheaper am sure
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im sure regal do a remap for the 1.6 for 200
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quote:
Originally posted by ryan_fowler1985
im sure regal do a remap for the 1.6 for 200


Yes, I emailed a geeza from regal and he said they can do a remap on the engine which should give it an extra "10 bhp" - just from the remap app.....?
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will only give extra 10bhp if working with other mods tho wont it? ive just fitted a dbilas inlet which they claim 22bhp gonna get it rr soon to see, mite invest in a remap then ready to blow the bottom end up
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My mantzel gained 10.8 BHP.

For the remap, it all depends on the state of the mods and the condition of the engine.

But 5 to 8 realistically with your spec.
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If you don't increase fuel delivery 11 bhp is the gain.
I gained +25 after the chip and increased rev limit
Steve X16XE
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What was the spec?
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Mantzel +chip+blocked EGR+increased pressure because it was a generic chip form superchips that I had before.

104bhp before raising the fuel pressure

115bhp after at 7000 rpm

1.4 16v at the time
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Thats an amasing increase for a 1.4 16v.
CraigGreen
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Where are thse remaps from?
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quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
quote:
Originally posted by aron85


i always ask myself is it really worth spending that money to then just about keep up with 106 gti's and saxo vts'... lol





even with a redtop conversion your still only keeping up with vts and gti

I used to smoke VTS' and GTI's in my old XE, it had induction kit, powercap, 4-2-1 manifold, full exhaust system. i reckon it was running probly about 160bhp and I seriously used to piss all over them from 3rd gear onwards.

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