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FA have just sacked Steve McClaren and Terry Venaballs

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/NewsFromTheFA/Postings/2007/11/FA_statement22Nov.htm

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Glad theyve seen sense and sacked venables as well
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terry vegetables

i dont mind venebles that much though
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11096_2896288,00.html
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always lookin for someone to blame,

is it maclarens fault the players played shit?

can they not play football? are they robots that need commands?

scotland hasn qualified, but we're not sacking our manager, ad he does a perfectly good job,


i think its the squad of kids that are getting too big for they're boots that they need to look at,

top flight football ruins players all the time, pinning so much hope on them to carry a whole squad through.

maclaren maybe part of the problem, but think it runs deeper than just him
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and thats constructive critisism from a scotsman,

so just not to let myself down

up the english and im glad ur oot
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It does run deeper than McCLown correct but he proved hes not good enough. Yes the players need a serious kick up the arse but is it not the coachs job to motivate, train and coach the players and select tactics etc, all of which he wa spoor at, very poor in fact!
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the england players think they are bigger than the england team, NOT a good start

the media and other people need to leave them to play the fuking game
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quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
always lookin for someone to blame,

is it maclarens fault the players played shit?

can they not play football? are they robots that need commands?

scotland hasn qualified, but we're not sacking our manager, ad he does a perfectly good job,


i think its the squad of kids that are getting too big for they're boots that they need to look at,

top flight football ruins players all the time, pinning so much hope on them to carry a whole squad through.

maclaren maybe part of the problem, but think it runs deeper than just him



Dont talk rubbish.

Who decided to continually stick with Lampard when he was playing shocking.
Who decided to continually play Lampard and Gerrard together when it was already well known under Sven that this just didnt work.
Who decided to drop Barry after him showing MOTM type performances alongside Gerrard.
Who took the 'Im the boss' power too far by totally overlooking Beckham only to have to go running back to him.
Who continually stuck by Robinson when he just wasnt upto the job leading to a few very poor goals conceeded by him.
Who continually had his favourates (Downing) and always insisted on bringing or starting them.
Etc. etc. etc.

Now Im sorry, but in 19 games the amount of the above decisions is just shocking.

And before you say it, I know the FA itself has its problems, and possibly the way English football is currently run, but at the end of the day we didnt qualify because of the poor decisions made by McKnob.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Dont talk rubbish.

Who decided to continually stick with Lampard when he was playing shocking.
Who decided to continually play Lampard and Gerrard together when it was already well known under Sven that this just didnt work.
Who decided to drop Barry after him showing MOTM type performances alongside Gerrard.
Who took the 'Im the boss' power too far by totally overlooking Beckham only to have to go running back to him.
Who continually stuck by Robinson when he just wasnt upto the job leading to a few very poor goals conceeded by him.
Who continually had his favourates (Downing) and always insisted on bringing or starting them.
Etc. etc. etc.

Now Im sorry, but in 19 games the amount of the above decisions is just shocking.

And before you say it, I know the FA itself has its problems, and possibly the way English football is currently run, but at the end of the day we didnt qualify because of the poor decisions made by McKnob.


what he said ^^^^
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no, it is mclarens fault, last night he picked a team that simply wasnt good enough, no-one else picked that team

england needed a draw against croatia at home, that should be a certainty for a team like england

he wasnt up to the job

------------------ Carson ------------------

Bridge ---- Campbell --- Lescott --- Richards

J. Cole ---- Gerrard --- Lampard --- Barry --- SWP

----------------------Crouch ------------------

WTF was wrong with picking this team

------------------- James --------------------

A. Cole -- Lescott --- Richards --- Brown

J. Cole --- Gerrard --- Hargreaves --- Beckham

-------- Crouch ---- Bent (Maybe Defoe)

[Edited on 22-11-2007 by strick206]
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A cole and hargreaves are injured IIRC so that would prevent them from playing
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quote:
Originally posted by pikey pete
A cole and hargreaves are injured IIRC so that would prevent them from playing


Both on the bench last night IIRC.
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quote:
Originally posted by pikey pete
A cole and hargreaves are injured IIRC so that would prevent them from playing


look at the subs bench clown

if they are fit enough to be on the bench, they are fit enough to play
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Huddlestone


wasnt it huddlestone in defense last night?

EDIT : No he wasnt,

[Edited on 22-11-2007 by strick206]
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Originally posted by strick206
if they are fit enough to be on the bench, they are fit enough to play


I dunno knowing McKnob, he may just want them to get some bench experience.
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and i am not bitter that no united players were in that team last night

its just the team i posted would have been much more likely to get a result imo
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TBH your team looks stronger than the one that went out.

I mean why fuck about with a formation you havent really played anyway!!?
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
TBH your team looks stronger than the one that went out.

I mean why fuck about with a formation you havent really played anyway!!?


also, why fucking play 4-5-1 at home

even bastard derby dont do that
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Because he has no other fucking idea. He though - hmmmm, we need the draw so will put 10 men behind the ball and defend for our lives.

Then by 14mins they had scored 2 and he had no fucking idea what to do, and left it how it was - even though it was obvious it wasnt working - until the second half
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Just stood there under a fkn umbrella like a fkn badger
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quote:
Originally posted by strick206
no, it is mclarens fault, last night he picked a team that simply wasnt good enough, no-one else picked that team

england needed a draw against croatia at home, that should be a certainty for a team like england

he wasnt up to the job

------------------ Carson ------------------

Bridge ---- Campbell --- Lescott --- Richards

J. Cole ---- Gerrard --- Lampard --- Barry --- SWP

----------------------Crouch ------------------

WTF was wrong with picking this team

------------------- James --------------------

A. Cole -- Lescott --- Richards --- Brown

J. Cole --- Gerrard --- Hargreaves --- Beckham

-------- Crouch ---- Bent (Maybe Defoe)

[Edited on 22-11-2007 by strick206]


For starters you are clearly utterly fucking thick. Ashley Cole is not a frigging right back and Wes Brown is not a left back, so you have lost your argument to start with.

Beckham doesn't play on the left and Joe Cole doesn't play on the right.

I get really annoyed by thick cunts like you who cannot grasp really simple things about football. Next you will cry that it is due to 'too many foreigners' or some crap like that?

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quote:
Originally posted by LETGSI16V
For starters you are clearly utterly fucking thick. Ashley Cole is not a frigging right back and Wes Brown is not a left back, so you have lost your argument to start with.

Beckham doesn't play on the left and Joe Cole doesn't play on the right.

I get really annoyed by thick cunts like you who cannot grasp really simple things about football. Next you will cry that it is due to 'too many foreigners' or some crap like that?




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Top reply there Cosmo.

Surely you can see the failings in that post?

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