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ChrisBoom

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26th Nov 07 at 20:51

My mate was stopped in his fiesta last night because of his exhaust. Its not even loud, just an ashley backbox, yet he was stopped for it, and told that as its not standard, its therfore illegal.

He had a JUST bald tire too, and they gave him 3 points & a £30 fine.

Now the police here are utter bastards at the best of times, surly the exhaust thing isnt right? He got the note thing to have it changed in 14 days.

deano87

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26th Nov 07 at 20:52

Of course it isn't illegal, unless he doesn't have a cat, in which case, it would be.

But if it is declared on his insurance, then no, can't see how it's illegal.

[Edited on 26-11-2007 by deano87]

tom_simes

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26th Nov 07 at 20:52

Take it to an MOT station and get it noise tested, but should be fine I think.

B3KAN

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26th Nov 07 at 20:53

If an exhaust has been altered from standard spec then its illigal going by the law

Jake

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26th Nov 07 at 20:54

that doesnt make sense. Why would insurance companies cover exhausts if they are illegal?

ChrisBoom

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26th Nov 07 at 20:54

quote:
Originally posted by B3KAN
If an exhaust has been altered from standard spec then its illigal going by the law

Thats what they said, but they didnt even noise test it, just said, right you, thats illegal.

Robin

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26th Nov 07 at 20:54

So all aftermarket exhausts are illegal?

Jakey

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26th Nov 07 at 20:55

We had a car in work on Saturday, this old dears exhaust had rotted off cat-back, i thought it was stupidly loud but my boss did a decibels test and it was quite far under the limit. So unless your mates exhaust its unbarable to stand next to i very much doubt its illegal.

simon179

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26th Nov 07 at 20:56

they wre trying to ban louder backboxes but their was a partition on here against it not so long back and their was about 50k votes against an taht was in first few days of the partition!

B3KAN

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26th Nov 07 at 20:56

quote:
Originally posted by jake
that doesnt make sense. Why would insurance companies cover exhausts if they are illegal?

Good point also why are places aloud to sell them

But its been brought up on many forums about exhausts and that is the law and at the end off the day if they say its illigal then theres not much you can do about it

ShEp

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26th Nov 07 at 20:57

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
So all aftermarket exhausts are illegal?

according to the cops yes

its a stupid idea, ive had many many arguments with them about it

there is no law set out, and i refuse to pay any fines they've given me, i always go to court and it gets thrown out

Robin

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26th Nov 07 at 20:58

Well I've never heard that TBH.

B3KAN

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26th Nov 07 at 20:58

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
So all aftermarket exhausts are illegal?

No i didnt say all aftermarket exhausts were illigal

But if it has been altered from standard spec to increase the noice (db limit) then yes it is illigal

TomSBD

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26th Nov 07 at 20:58

there is no set limit for the mot

and all exhuast that aint standard are illgal yeh, comes under the construction and use act or sumit like that

Robin

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26th Nov 07 at 20:59

But all aftermarket exhaust aren't standard spec and are louder, so must be illegal, which they aren't?

B3KAN

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26th Nov 07 at 21:00

quote:
Originally posted by TomSBD
there is no set limit for the mot

and all exhuast that aint standard are illgal yeh, comes under the construction and use act or sumit like that

Mot testers are also becoming harder on exhausts now aswell

if they feel its to loud then they can fail it

seen it done on a few cars

I got an advise on mine for its mot

ShEp

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26th Nov 07 at 21:01

happens all the time up here robin,

they go out with the test equipment and catch several cars a night,

there's no law though, no noise limit, or anything, so they're charging you with something that doesnt exist

it a stupid thing to do, and i dont know any1 who has removed they're exhaust,

what they dont tell you is, that vibrations from the exhausts they test mean the machine needs to be re-calibrated everytime they use it, which it never is, as ive seen them do 6/7 cars in one car park one after the other

police can be badgers at times

deano87

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26th Nov 07 at 21:02

And this is Scotland as well - different laws may be?

ShEp

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26th Nov 07 at 21:03

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
But all aftermarket exhaust aren't standard spec and are louder, so must be illegal, which they aren't?

i told them about that and the bosal drain hole and how they make noise

copper just tried to shoosh me, as they could tell i knew what i was talking about, and they wanted to save an argument they were gonna loose and look silly

richc

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26th Nov 07 at 21:03

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
But all aftermarket exhaust aren't standard spec and are louder, so must be illegal, which they aren't?

He doesnt mean that. He means if the car has a Db rating of 80 for example with standard exhaust, and he put a back box on it, which is modifiying that exhaust, then it will be louder, therefore not being how that exhaust come out of the factory.

But, if he put an aftermarket exhaust (full system) and it has a rating of 90Db it will be ok, because it is made that way!

[Edited on 26-11-2007 by richc]

ShEp

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26th Nov 07 at 21:04

quote:
Originally posted by deano87
And this is Scotland as well - different laws may be?

its Uk law

not scottish law

simon179

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26th Nov 07 at 21:04

ithought they were ileagal if they had no baffle in!

cherry bombs are ileagal lol! when you buy them they have an off road use only label on them was laffing at one the other day was thinking of buying it for a grin as their only like £35 haha

B3KAN

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26th Nov 07 at 21:05

quote:
Originally posted by ShEp

quote:
Originally posted by deano87
And this is Scotland as well - different laws may be?

its Uk law

not scottish law

ShEp

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26th Nov 07 at 21:05

quote:
Originally posted by richc

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
But all aftermarket exhaust aren't standard spec and are louder, so must be illegal, which they aren't?

He doesnt mean that. He means if the car has a Db rating of 80 for example with standard exhaust, and he put a back box on it, which is modifiying that exhaust, then it will be louder.

But, if he put an aftermarket exhaust (full system) and it has a rating of 90Db it will be ok, because it is made that way!

no

police say ANYTHING that alters the noise is illegal

they stopped me in my 1.4 sport when i had it and didnt undertsand where the noise was coming from (induction kit)

B3KAN

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26th Nov 07 at 21:08

tbh the thing that p*sses me off is that places are aloud to sell them

and the fact i pay more insurance for having an aftermarket exhaust but yet the police still say it is illigal

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