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swill_omnibus
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15th Dec 07 at 15:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

When i have even one person in the back of the car, and sort of dip in the road makes the arch trim rub!

I have it lowered 40mm all round with stiff shock absorbers.

It this something i'll have to live with or is there somethint that can be done to prevent it?

Cheers

[Edited on 17-12-2007 by swill_omnibus]
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quote:
Originally posted by swill_omnibus
When i have even one person in the back of the car, and sort of dip in the road makes the arch trim rub!

I have it lowered 40mm all round with stiff shock absorbers.

It this something i'll have to live with or is there somethint that can be done to prevent it?

Cheers


Fit the standard suspension

Seriously though, my car is lowered 60mm and the back arches rub on the tyres on dips in the road/speedbumps with NOBODY in the back

I just deal with it.

Need to sort my exhaust banging on the axle though

[Edited on 15-12-2007 by 16V_1600CS]
TheCam
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15th Dec 07 at 15:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you know that if your tyres are rubbing it can be dangerous as the arch can cut your tyre and can make you have a blowout.
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15th Dec 07 at 15:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

remove the plastic bolts, stick archs down
Jordan C
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
remove the plastic bolts, stick archs down


Also what offset are ur wheels?
swill_omnibus
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15th Dec 07 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
you know that if your tyres are rubbing it can be dangerous as the arch can cut your tyre and can make you have a blowout.


This is what im concerned about at the moment, it's very rare that i have anyone in the back of my car but when i do im on full alert to make sure it dont rub at all but it's un avoidable!

quote:
remove the plastic bolts, stick archs down

How do you mean? Move them so their out of the way on potential impact?

quote:
Also what offset are ur wheels?

I'll assume its the standard spec for now but when get a chance i'll take the informaion of the wheel and update then!

[Edited on 15-12-2007 by swill_omnibus]
TheCam
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15th Dec 07 at 15:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

standard off set is et 49 so do wat steve says.


my polo is down 80mm n it rubs like fuck, am gonna have to do something similar
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by 16V_1600CS

Seriously though, my car is lowered 60mm and the back arches rub on the tyres on dips in the road/speedbumps with NOBODY in the back



why is that funny? it's silly...
16V_1600
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
quote:
Originally posted by 16V_1600CS

Seriously though, my car is lowered 60mm and the back arches rub on the tyres on dips in the road/speedbumps with NOBODY in the back



why is that funny? it's silly...


I simply need to get some 195/45 tyres and some higer offset wheels so they don't catch as much.

Dunno why I put that smiley, there tbh. It ain't funny, it's more of a pain in the arse. Will be sorted though.
TheCam
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15th Dec 07 at 15:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dont change the alloys, it will probably rub on full lock if you do.. just take out the bolts and tiger-seal the arches on
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quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
dont change the alloys, it will probably rub on full lock if you do.. just take out the bolts and tiger-seal the arches on


Ah, I see your point. my alloys are ET40. Will I notice a massive diff downsizing from 195/50 to 195/45?

Going to remove the trim and tigerseal back on

[Edited on 15-12-2007 by 16V_1600CS]
TheCam
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15th Dec 07 at 16:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah downsizing tyre size will defo help,

does ET40 mean the wheel is further in or further out I cant remember?
Ben G
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9mm further out.
TheCam
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cheers, getting ET49 alloys will help far more than downsizing tyres mate.
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quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
cheers, getting ET49 alloys will help far more than downsizing tyres mate.


Excuse to get some better alloys I suppose
dean101287
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mine rubbed so I had the arches worked, rear ones rolled and the front ones cut- is so much beter nw
16V_1600
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quote:
Originally posted by dean101287
mine rubbed so I had the arches worked, rear ones rolled and the front ones cut- is so much beter nw


Cost much?
swill_omnibus
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15th Dec 07 at 16:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It seems to only be the back so far, can see where (the last owner badly painted) on the arch trim the paint has rubbed off.

Think i shall do some poking around tomorrow (as its dark) and see where i have room for adjustment.

Is there a guide to doing the arch trim as steve described on here??
TheCam
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15th Dec 07 at 17:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its easy mate, just take off the arch trim then glue it back on basically
swill_omnibus
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16th Dec 07 at 12:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi all,

Took the information of my tyres that i have on the rear.

Rear driver side:- 195/45 78V

Rear Passenger side:- 195/45 78W

I know that there is no rubbing at all on the rear passenger side and this is the tyre with the "W" on but the driver side has a "V" Is this what maybe to different?

Also, How do you check if your shocks are "Stiff" or "Soft" or however??

Cheers all
bieransri
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16th Dec 07 at 12:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the letters are just speedratings, wont make any difference to the catching problem as its not a figure that indicates anything to do with the size of the tyre.

as for the shocks, this depends wether or not you have dampikng adjustable shocks. what suspension kit do you have?

[Edited on 16-12-2007 by bieransri]
swill_omnibus
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16th Dec 07 at 12:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sadly their not adjustable, the shocks were put on about 4-5 months before i put the springs on.

Their G-max, because i had some work done and wanted stiffer shocks at the same time so they installed "G-max" shocks and when i wanted to match components id rather follow suit like and keep it all the same.

Is there a way to know their stiffness rating without having to take the shocks of at all?





[Edited on 16-12-2007 by swill_omnibus]

[Edited on 16-12-2007 by swill_omnibus]
bieransri
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16th Dec 07 at 12:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think most the budget stuff like g-max are all the same rating. however its the height and offset combo thats causing the problems as many people run coilovers really low and still have littel if any problems. any chance you could borrow a set of vaux rims in the same size to try.

edit: if thats the usual ride height its definetly the offset of the wheels causing the problem.

[Edited on 16-12-2007 by bieransri]
swill_omnibus
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16th Dec 07 at 12:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

G-max is budget is it! Could it be that alone which is causing it because their budget?

Thing i don't quite get is that it is only the rear right side that is causing a problem. If get a chance later i'll take the accusing alloy off and look for rating on the inside rim and report back then
bieransri
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look for an ET number on the inside of the rim.

not saying that the gmax stuff will be causing it as im sure many people use it with no problems.

id try a set of et49 rims on it see how you go as its more than likely the offset of your current wheels causing the scrubbing

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