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antoni
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1st Mar 08 at 01:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how hard is it to set up and wire up elec windows on my 1997 sting ?
Richie
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Very, very difficult.

A guy did it on here and he nearly commited suicide doing it
scottc1088
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1st Mar 08 at 09:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i did it a few months ago, just changed the car loom.

scott
Simon_16v
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1st Mar 08 at 15:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Not that bad. Me and my grandad put them in my 96 premier.

I managed to get as much of the loom outta the donor car i could.
baz08
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SRi_Si

hi am also wanting to upgrade my manual mirrors and windows to electric, any chance you could give me sum pointers n sum info on how you did yours, specifically with the wiring aspect, thanks v much
12vMatt
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i did it in my Trip.
get a Haynes manual and use the wiring diagrams to create a loom, its what i did.
baz08
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hi, am no electrician like so those wiring diagrams look like jargon to me, any chance you could take a few pics of the wiirng done in yours, is it simple to do, or semi simple lol
baz08
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bump
antoni
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well i dont have the wiring so ime scrapping the idea haha

sounds like a wedge of work for a 'creature comfort'
sebbyg
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2nd Mar 08 at 22:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

shouldnt be too hard m8,put them in my 93 corsa. just need to get a live to each door, get motors with mechanisms and of course switches with a small amount of wiring from scrappy (window switch to motor plug wiring)etc, bit of messing about,but defo worth it

[Edited on 02-03-2008 by sebbyg]
12vMatt
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its really simple to make a loom up (assuming you have the door looms)

power lead from the battery with a 30amp fuse in it going to the red wire leading to the motor.
power lead from an ignition live (fag lighter) going to the black wire on the switch.
brown wire near the plug into the car attached to an earthing point (i used one of the screws holding the speaker in)

repeat for the other side (this is a really basic set up and wont let you operate the passengers side from the drivers side - i never got around to wiring up the passengers side to the drivers)

hope this makes sense
Simon_16v
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2nd Mar 08 at 22:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well i managed to get my drivers mirror moving but not my passenger but this was already in the right place.

Wiring is pretty simple. Red live, Brown earth, Black switched live, black/red is power for the switches and whatever the speaker wires are.

If you need any help let me know but like i said it pretty straight forward. Took me a day to get them wired up
sebbyg
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theres 4 wires from passenger window switch iirc (was along time ago)that you need 2 use(i wasnt fussed about leccy mirors so i just gt read of wiring for them) , 2 of them are for passenger leccy switch, other 2 just run across to drivers side switches, and connect up to switch there to allow operation of passngers window from drivers side

your going to need to have a few wiring skills to work them out, great when its all working tho

[Edited on 02-03-2008 by sebbyg]
12vMatt
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2nd Mar 08 at 22:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

^^^^^^^Correct.

i couldn't be arsed though cos im really lazy
baz08
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thanks for the input, will u2u or post again once my kit arrives, got the motors and switches for the windows, still need to get the door wiring looms from a scrappy, is there any way of connecting them up to the fusebox like plug n play type of thing or is tht a whole other pain in the arse lol, thanks
antoni
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hhmmm i might get the elec windows etc and get a local guy to wire it up for me

actually if its just a case of running a live and an earth i might give it a bash, surely to control the passenger side i would only need to run the live and earth across the car ?
Simon_16v
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Seriously its a peice of piss.

Forgot out theres 2 wires that go from drivers to the passenger side to operate the window. Cant remember the colour but on the passenger side they are the same colour as the drivers but have a dot on the wire to show that they connect up.

If anyone wants to u2u me for any help i dont mind
antoni
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yerrr, ime going to get the stuff and have a bash

DIY FTW

Simon_16v
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Good lad. Like i said, if you get stuck or want a second opinion just u2u me. Try and get the wiring from a corsa with electric windows etc as it makes it easier to join wires up.
baz08
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am going to get the door wiring looms shortly, is there a way to connect up to the fusebox so its kinda like the way it shud be, or are DIY connections the best best bet
Simon_16v
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I just connected the live to a spare place on the fuse box then made my own earth point. Switched live was off the stereo and that was the only ones needing connecting externally to the windows. Rest mainly just join up
antoni
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oooooooooo this is were ime going to have problems, how do i 'tap' into the redio live, do you mean the remote wire that is used for external amps etc or ... ?

would it be easier to use the fag lighter instead ?
Simon_16v
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Nah a switched live is when you turn the keys on and all the dash lights come on, normally called acc position. It's just so that when you turn it to that position it turns the switches on for the windows. Otherwise they'd be lit up all the time
antoni
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so were do i rob this switched live from ?

cigarette lighter ?
Simon_16v
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Fag lighter, wiring loom for stereo, mfd. Thats a few places off the top of my head

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