Jill
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Ok for those of you that may be interested I went to a rolling road day organised by the RSOC on Sat 12th April. I wasn't under any illusion that I'd get amazing power figures as my Focus RS was standard apart from the K+N Gen2.
These are the graphs of bhp and boost vs AFR from the rolling road day on Sat 12th April, with just my K+N Gen2 on. As you can see it peaks at 16psi and settles around 12psi, which is shocking and probably due to the actuator being a bit weak:
NB: The Focus RS book value as standard is 212bhp (228lbs/ft torque)
I'd already got an uprated Forge actuator courtesy of and RSOC group buy so that wouldn't be a problem to sort out, but no point getting it fitted unless I have Bluefin (or another type of chip) done as it's better if they're done at the same time. Another problem was that my car was running the AF software (also responsible probably for the poor power result perhaps as well as the actuator) so had to get that sorted as Bluefin etc runs better on the AE software (which was introduced later in the production of the Focus RS). Cue a trip up to Blackpool to NMM to get it sorted by one of the RSOC guys
These are the bhp and boost vs AFR graphs from Wed 30th April, with the following mods: K+N Gen2, Forge DV007p, Forge Actuator (directly connected instead of through the boost solenoid), Bluefin and AE. As you can see it's now boosting at 20psi and settling around 15psi, which is so much better and no doubt on the road those figures will be a tiny bit higher also:
I'm pleasantly suprised with the results as I didn't think I would be running that sort of power- was hoping for perhaps itro 230bhp! Just need to decat now, exhaust and perhaps a manifold, we'll see!
Any comments/constructive critisism welcome
**I apologise for the wonky scannning in advance
JILL
[Edited on 02-05-2008 by Jill]
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jr
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not bad at all, and you can trust the results considering it was done at TOTD
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Tarrantino
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NICE
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Jill
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quote: Originally posted by jr
not bad at all, and you can trust the results considering it was done at TOTD
Thanks!
Definitely agree with your TOTD comment. I've always heard good things about these guys and now after having two rolling road sessions with them and them working on my car setting my actuator and boost etc up, I'd definitely recommend them, great bunch of lads
JILL
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Robbo
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Awesome Jill'th
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Richardhhha
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what you need is...
Surpentine equal length exhaust manifold,
De-cat
3" manifold back system
Drove one before i left ford, was running 360bhp with after market managment.... Was a animal
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Jill
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quote: Originally posted by Richardhhha
what you need is...
Surpentine equal length exhaust manifold,
De-cat
3" manifold back system
Drove one before i left ford, was running 360bhp with after market managment.... Was a animal
Was probably running a GT28 or hybrid turbo too also for that figure, not just after market management
JILL
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Richardhhha
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all i know is it had a lot of stainles under the bonnet. And you had to be very carefull when you put your foot down over 2k as it just reved to 7k in a mater of a second or 2 no mater what gear..... Dangerous to drive but was fun...
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Robbo
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They are so so so so much fun to drive these things!!!!!
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myke
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impressive
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Fad
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Had a go in one on Tuesday oh my think I shall be chopping in the Clio for one next year!
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quote: Originally posted by Fad
Had a go in one on Tuesday oh my think I shall be chopping in the Clio for one next year!
Please do!
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Jill
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quote: Originally posted by Robbo
They are so so so so much fun to drive these things!!!!!
Says he who chose a VAG car over an FRS
quote: Originally posted by Fad
Had a go in one on Tuesday oh my think I shall be chopping in the Clio for one next year!
Correct answer! hehe!
JILL
[Edited on 02-05-2008 by Jill]
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loo_goblin
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i saw FRS and thought you meant fiesta rs, was really impressed until i saw it was a focus
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Jill
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Yeah sorry about the confusion with the abbreviation there, it's the rsoc coming out in me Fiesta RS is FRST on there you see
JILL
[Edited on 02-05-2008 by Jill]
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Robbo
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quote: Originally posted by Jill
quote: Originally posted by Robbo
They are so so so so much fun to drive these things!!!!!
Says he who chose a VAG car over an FRS
I can't afford to run it day to day to Newbury and back (fuel AND they eat tyres like theres no tomorrow) and I couldn't have afforded another car in addition... saying that, my Dad offered me their Pug 106 for free last week
Otherwise you know I would have!!!!!
[Edited on 02-05-2008 by Robbo]
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big eck
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Pretty impessive for near standard
Is it true that if you use another Dyno Dynamics rolling road else where in the UK that it will give you the exact same results???
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luke85
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Did the rolling not mention anything about how rich the car is running? will be losing power there unless you really need it below 10:1
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Dave A
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quote: Originally posted by big eck
Pretty impessive for near standard
Is it true that if you use another Dyno Dynamics rolling road else where in the UK that it will give you the exact same results???
within a few % yes. Dyno dynamics regularly test the dynos. A car mag did a feature recently and tested a large amount of them with the same car, all were within 5 bhp@ the wheels.
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AK
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it is running fairly rich!!
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Dave A
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most of the modern day turbo'd hatches run that rich, its normal to get an astra vxr/golf gti/focus rs in that is running 10's on the AFR.
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AK
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why do they run that rich then? extra cooling or something to prevent any det?
our trackcar runs pretty damn rich and spits flames etc (still not mapped properly)
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luke85
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I reckon its because manufacturers have to play it safe with the mapping, and so you can run on crap fuel and high temps without det
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Whittie
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quote: Originally posted by Robbo
They are so so so so much fun to drive these things!!!!!
Have to agree. They're really nice car, i love them, If i had enough I would get one, but realise i'm only a few grand short of an S3, so probably will never own one
[Edited on 02-05-2008 by Whittie]
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Jill
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quote: Originally posted by big eck
Pretty impessive for near standard
It's not near standard now though if you read the thread...
quote: Originally posted by luke85
Did the rolling not mention anything about how rich the car is running? will be losing power there unless you really need it below 10:1
The FRS is known to run a tad rich though. Obviously if you compare it to the 1st rolling road graph (AFR) it's now nowhere near as bad. They didn't seem to think it was a problem and were pleased with the graph and my result overall
JILL
[Edited on 03-05-2008 by Jill]
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