antnee
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Im confused, are H.I.D's and xenons the same thing?
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Schlumpfy
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Proper Xenons yes. Don't be confused by those "performance xenon bulbs" you can get which only contain a smidgen of xenon gas.
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antnee
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Has anyone used Phillips X-treme Power bulbs before?
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frostyD
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factory xenon headlights are different to HID's
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John
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They both refer to the same thing, how are factory ones different to hids?
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frostyD
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example, astra mk4s can come with optional xenon headlights which use DS2 bulbs.
the normal headlights use h7 fitment, you can then use a h7 HID kit in them .
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antnee
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I just found this on a bulb site
1) What are xenon replacement bulbs?
A Xenon replacement bulb is a halogen bulb that has been filled with extra Xenon gas. This extra Xenon gas, combined with better filament technology, gives a greater light output. Xenon replacement bulbs come in generally 2 different styles. Those geared towards styling (with the blue tint), and those designed specifically for maximum light output. Bulbs with a blue coating will naturally emit less light than the equivelant bulb without a blue coating. Because of this, the maximum vision bulbs can reach up to 80% improved vision, whereas the blue coated styling bulbs only reach up to 30% improved vision. The 2 extremes of these in our product range are the ABD Ice Blue bulbs, which give only 10-20% improved vision but a noticeable blue tint, and the Philips X-Treme bulbs which have no blue tint but offer 80% improved vision over a standard bulb.
9) Are xenon replacement bulbs the same as the ones you see in some new expensive cars with blue lights?
No. These are known as HID systems. High Intensity Discharge's light output is over 3 to 4 times greater than a halogen bulb, with less heat and power consumption. HID requires an electronic control gear and starter to momentarily apply high voltage to a capsule of inert gases (including xenon) creating an intense arc of white light. HID emits brilliant white light. A 35W HID produces a light closer to natural sunlight compared to a 55w halogen. An HID system will typically cost between £200 - £300. We do also have these available here.
So there different but the same  both have xenon gas in and both called xenons. xenon hid's are usually called that though
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SAL
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ultra daylight kit £130 from rimstyle 
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Adam_B
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quote:
Originally posted by antnee
Has anyone used Phillips X-treme Power bulbs before?
yes i have those, they are much better than 'normal' H7s but obviously not as good as a proper HID kit. But they dont cost like over a 100 quid obviously 
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by frostyD
example, astra mk4s can come with optional xenon headlights which use DS2 bulbs.
the normal headlights use h7 fitment, you can then use a h7 HID kit in them .
That's the headlight unit though, the bulbs and method of firing the bulbs is exactly the same, xenons and hids refer to the same type of bulb/system.
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Graham88
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I fitted HID's to my Fiesta, unbelieveable difference, should come standard on all cars!
Worth every penny. I want some for my bike now 
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Jambo
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mate retro fitted some to his Fiat coupe. Makes it look much more modern! Quite fancy a set for the Z3
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_Allan_
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
quote:
Originally posted by antnee
Has anyone used Phillips X-treme Power bulbs before?
yes i have those, they are much better than 'normal' H7s but obviously not as good as a proper HID kit. But they dont cost like over a 100 quid obviously
Neither do HID kits though. Can get them for about £36 delivered which is not much dearer than some normal bulbs on the market.
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JamesGSi
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i have a set of H7's for sale and also some Ds2 bulbs, which are brand new!
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_Allan_
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PS: Anyone wanting to go halves with another member on these or get a spare set. BOGOF offer on Silverstars.
http://www.powerbulbs.com/product_detail.asp?prod=84
Also if you use the code astgt15 you get a further 15% off.
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