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pow

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6th Sep 08 at 14:53

Just a quick one for a curious mate.

If you have a 1.2 SXi C say that costs (under 2010 rules) £120 to tax a year, but you put a Z20LET in it (all legit, logbook and all), how much does it cost to tax?

Is it the same as the car it came out of if its a post 2001 car (say Mk4 Astra GSi = £440 a year), £185 becuase its now over 1549cc as the old rules or just £120 as that what the 1.2 engine was?

Thanks

shaunmods

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6th Sep 08 at 15:01

pretty sure the cost to tax it would increase because it goes by the c02's on newer cars. So I would have thought when you get the changed log book back the c02 reading listed would have increased to whatever the new engine produces. it will then probably fall into a different price bracket.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

might be wrong though mate

Tommy L

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6th Sep 08 at 15:02

Surely it will be £440 a year

I'm really not clued up on the new tax regs. If its pre 2001 is the tax different?

pow

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6th Sep 08 at 15:05

What if you put on the new engine size but not the new CO2 rating/engine code on the log book?

Tbh, how the fuck are you gunna know the CO2 emmisions for engines lol. And are the DVLA gunna know what a Z20LET gives out.

deano87

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6th Sep 08 at 15:07

Isn't the point that all post-2001 cars have the emissions recorded? Also, don't you have to give more details than just the engine displacement when registering it?

Or may be it's then classed as a kit car

Corsa_Sport21

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6th Sep 08 at 17:03

And for a start the gsi isnt 440 a year,try £210.

Ben G

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6th Sep 08 at 17:07

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
And for a start the gsi isnt 440 a year,try £210.

he never said it was. the tax rates are going up starting from next year iirc.

Corsa_Sport21

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6th Sep 08 at 17:10

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
And for a start the gsi isnt 440 a year,try £210.

he never said it was. the tax rates are going up starting from next year iirc.

Erm yes he did.
1st post,in brackets (say mk4 Astra GSI=440 a year.)

Ben G

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6th Sep 08 at 17:12

310 from 2010 apparently. so more than you said.

[Edited on 06-09-2008 by Ben G]

Corsa_Sport21

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6th Sep 08 at 17:18

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
310 from 2010 apparently. so more than you said.

[Edited on 06-09-2008 by Ben G]

Were not talking about next year tho are we,were talking about now.And 2010 isnt next year either.

And good job u edited that last post.

Ben G

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6th Sep 08 at 17:20

piss off, if he's doing an engine conversion he's obviously going to kleep it for a bit (most likely).

it's £300 tax from next year anyway, you going to argue over a tenner?

what you gonna do if i don't edit post's? e-beat me up?

deano87

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6th Sep 08 at 17:21

eBeatings.

Ben G

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6th Sep 08 at 17:22

ftl

Corsa_Sport21

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6th Sep 08 at 17:25

Why is he most likely to keep it after doing an engine swap??Most ppl cut theyr lossed after a few months and sell them on.Not every1 gets debted up to the eyeballs and needs to keep a car.

And its not a tenner tho,its £90.

Well why did u edit it??No point in being a keyboard warrior for 10secs.

Ben G

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6th Sep 08 at 17:28

how is 310 - 300 £90?

and whos debted upto their eyeballs?

[Edited on 06-09-2008 by Ben G]

Corsa_Sport21

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6th Sep 08 at 17:32

Its not £310-£300,its £210(current price)-£300.To me thats £90

deano87

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6th Sep 08 at 17:33

Shut the fuck up you two.

Ben G

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6th Sep 08 at 17:34

calm down dear

i'm not going to argue with you. the new tax brackets come in next year, which will affect him if he were to get tax.

and you didn't answer my question about debt upto their eyeballs?

[Edited on 06-09-2008 by Ben G]

lil_g

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6th Sep 08 at 17:43

He stated under 2010 rules in his first post, maybe that's when the conversion was planned for?

BTW pow I'm sure it would be the £440 if that's what the Z-Let will be then!

pow

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6th Sep 08 at 17:44

Oh shut up "Corsa_Sport". You know what I mean, get off your bloody high horse and calm down.

OK, i'll rephrase the question.

FOR EXAMPLE I want to convert a 02 reg SXi C to a Z20LET. I want to keep it till well past 2010, when the new tax rules come in.

If you have a 1.2 SXi C say that costs (under 2010 rules) £120 to tax a year, but you put a Z20LET in it (all legit, logbook and all), how much does it cost to tax?

Is it the same as the car it came out of if its a post 2001 car (say Mk4 Astra GSi = £310 a year), £185 becuase its now over 1549cc as the old rules or just £120 as that what the 1.2 engine was?

If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say it. Thanks for defending my corner Ben.

pow

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6th Sep 08 at 17:45

I'm confused as to how the DVLA system will work though Gregg

Ben G

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6th Sep 08 at 17:46

no problem mate

i knew what you meant.

i think it will go on the emissions given out from the car so i guess you would need a form from the MOT station or something stating that it produces 214g/km etc.

j100rsa would probably be best to ask as he MOT's cars from what i remember, but don't see him on here anymore

pow

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6th Sep 08 at 17:47

Ummm... such a shame that that wanker Darling is ruining drivers lives.

pow

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6th Sep 08 at 17:49

Another spanner in the works, what about a post 2001 car (included in new rules) with an older engine (C20LET from a 1995 cali - £185 to tax at the moment based on engine size) - like Will is doing.

I assume that will be £185?

deano87

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6th Sep 08 at 17:50

quote:
Originally posted by pow
Another spanner in the works, what about a post 2001 car (included in new rules) with an older engine (C20LET from a 1995 cali - £185 to tax at the moment based on engine size) - like Will is doing.

I assume that will be £185?

Think so. Going on cars that had a CAT, then it's removed with an older engine, it then doesn't need an emissions test?!

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