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richc
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15th Oct 08 at 22:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Havent got search so im wanting to know a few things.

Tyre wear - how abrasive is the surface? Are the tyres shagged after 5 hardish laps?

Brakes - Do they get hotter than saying a Uk track like donnington or do they last longer due to the longer straights and faster bends?

Anyone been in the wet?

Did everyone change the oil, coolant, brake fluid before they went? ( i am)

General info please as i am going on the 24th

I love last minute ideas......
Doug
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Tyre Wear - Depends on car, I would guess its a corsa. I doubt you will kill a new set in 5 laps. But the track is long and therefor if your driving properly it will get the tyres hot and sticky so they will wear at a quicker rate.

Brakes - Make sure they are up to scratch. Its not a hugely brake heavy track tbh

Wet - Your driving lines are completely different to the dry!

Make sure your car is in tip top condition before you go! And remember.... Its not a good idea to push it to the max and crash as its a long way from home!
CorsAsh
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Change all fluids before you go, won't hurt to have fresh in there.

Brakes will get hot, don't ride them all the time, concentrate on being smooth rather than fast

Tyre wear is what you'd expect of driving a country road at 70+ for 14 miles.
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i wouldnt bother going out in the wet if its your first time.
CorsAsh
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Good advice.
20valver
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0.2mm ring end gap
harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
0.2mm ring end gap


Russ
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quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
0.2mm ring end gap




^
another amazingly helpful comment from 20iq'er

[Edited on 16-10-2008 by Russ]
ainsley_brader
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My experience although I didn't drive this year I went with a mate.

Tyre wear was minimal after 3.5 laps.

Brakes did start to fade but that was std spec stuff. I imagine it would be no worse than a UK trackday.

Changing the fluids? I don't think we even checked them lol
We did put 3 new tyres on about 3 hours before we set off after i rang my mate in the evening to open his tyre shop up talk about leaving things til the last minute.

The car I was in was a almost stock Xsara VTS and it performed very well. The only mods to it were a set of 15's and an induction kit but it easily held its own.

I would say take it steady to begin with but I guess it depends how well you nkow your car. He certainly didn't and after 3 corners I felt perfectly comfortable on track with him going full chat.

We found we did 1 lap left the car to cool for a bit whilst we did something else (passenger lap in another cap or watching for a bit etc) then we did another lap.

Otherwise i think we may have suffered with the brakes.


.2mm ring end gap is probably the distance to the barrier from the track or something to do with touching cloth?
jr
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from expriance the brakes in a 1.8 astra cdx arent great after about 7 miles
jr
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quote:
Originally posted by richc


General info please as i am going on the 24th




wouldnt worry as there is only 2 barriers to be concerned about...............







the ones on the left and the ones on the right
All Torque
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CorsAsh
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Oh, standard track stuff this, but when you've been round and park your car up, just leave it in gear with the handbrake off, or your rear pads/shoes will cook to the disc/drum
richc
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Oh, standard track stuff this, but when you've been round and park your car up, just leave it in gear with the handbrake off, or your rear pads/shoes will cook to the disc/drum


As i found out on my last outing at donnington! The shoes were like 5 day old and the pads broke away

I know the car quiet well, done 30k miles in it

Yes it is a corsa (cant remeber who said it )

Cheers jr i will remeber that one
richc
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Change all fluids before you go, won't hurt to have fresh in there.

Brakes will get hot, don't ride them all the time, concentrate on being smooth rather than fast

Tyre wear is what you'd expect of driving a country road at 70+ for 14 miles.


Yer all fluids will be changed. Yer i like to be smooth!

Cheers me ode' fruit
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Oh, standard track stuff this, but when you've been round and park your car up, just leave it in gear with the handbrake off, or your rear pads/shoes will cook to the disc/drum

I also learn't that one the hard way
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Oh, standard track stuff this, but when you've been round and park your car up, just leave it in gear with the handbrake off, or your rear pads/shoes will cook to the disc/drum

I also learn't that one the hard way


Mine were that hot anyways that the handbrake wouldnt hold
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My dad had to give it one very big ummphhh to get it going the first time he drove it
smcGSI16V
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Have a look herehttp://nurburgring.org.uk/index.html
for an interesting read.
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quote:
Originally posted by smcGSI16V
Have a look herehttp://nurburgring.org.uk/index.html
for an interesting read.


Yer ive spent hours on that site before, just wanted some more mechanical advice which the site doesnt realy touch on ( unless im missing something)

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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Oh, standard track stuff this, but when you've been round and park your car up, just leave it in gear with the handbrake off, or your rear pads/shoes will cook to the disc/drum


Or it might even roll into an astra van
CorsAsh
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Fucking
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I went for the first time in sep. Every lap i did was wet. The track was an amazing exeriance. Very VEry differento to driving a UK trackday.

UK trackdays are well marshalled and relatively safe, the Nurburgring is marshaled but not as well and VERY dangerous.

When i do Uk track days im at 10/10ths, as fast as my car will go.

The ring i was driving 8/10ths, you place a foot wrong your having an accident.


Just on the laps i did i say 5 x 911's written off, 1 x cateraham, 2 x subarus and 2 x bikes..

There was many more, the track was shut for an hour. This all in one day.

In the wet its lethal... so very trecherous. Every corner the adhesion level changes. In places its been resurfaced others it hasnt, i would be very careful it if damp.

One corner can be dry the next greasy as fuck. It can catch you out i had some sideways moments.

Most of all enyoy yourself, you will NEVER learn the track in the first few trips let alone first time there..

Dont go and try be a hero, and remember if you go on a TF day its a public highway and German road rules apply.

You must pass on the left only as on the road there. Pass on the right and cause an accident the police will prosecute you.


Have an accident then pay the consequences... its very likely your car will be written off and they WILL charge you £1200 per metre of barrier you damage.

Most of all enjoy it

Here is a pic from when i went.








 
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