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Author Is this spring compressed too much?
Scotty C
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Jordan C
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Id say yes! the middle two are hitting each other! need a higher pound rate me thinks!
alan-g-w
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Possibly could be an MOT failure if the coils are touching.

Is the other side the same?

EDIT: Is it definetely located correctly?

[Edited on 19-10-2008 by alan-g-w]
Scotty C
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Think so yeh. I'll go look...
Scotty C
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It is yes.
AK
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yes
Scotty C
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But everyone with C's put B springs on
Dave A
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coil springs are designed for coils to touch, it helps give the spring their progressive nature.
AK
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so... because other people say or do something its ok?

Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
coil springs are designed for coils to touch, it helps give the spring their progressive nature.


So, it's ok?

quote:
Originally posted by AK
so... because other people say or do something its ok?




No, I never said that. I just assumed it must be ok, as they're roughly of the same weight, and ALOT of people have done it.

Kinda like Nova springs on a B...
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Dave ..... really

doesnt make sense to me :/
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
coil springs are designed for coils to touch, it helps give the spring their progressive nature.


I'd never have thought that on those kind of springs the coils should touch - maybe on 'straight' coil springs - i.e. fronts.

And it depends what the other side's like, if it's different it'd most likely be an MOT failure.

[Edited on 19-10-2008 by alan-g-w]
Scotty C
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The same.
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hm.

What have corsa C owners with the same thing done said to this?
Scotty C
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I've currently asked on CCUK, i'll await their replys
Scotty C
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Another car for comparrsion...



[Edited on 19-10-2008 by Scatt]
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
Dave ..... really

doesnt make sense to me :/



yes, when 2 coils sit on eachother it changes the static poundage of the spring. as you corner right, the right spring will compress and the centre coils will sit on eachother meaning that the active coils (upper and lower) are now controlling the spring rate.

On the left spring it has the opposite effect. It gives the spring the ability to behave differently under different loads which improves handling.

Most road springs have lighter lower poundage coils on the upper and lower sections and much stiffer coils in the centre. over smaller bumps the upper and lower springs control the spring softly, but as you enter a fast corner where you want less body roll these parts of the spring will compress under load and the centre coils will be in play, which are higher poundage and will give a lot less body roll.
Scotty C
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Would aftermarket shocks help?
mazdaspeed
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Isnt it more to do with the fact the larger the spring diameter (not thickness) the lower the strength. So the smaller coils will be stiffer and the larger softer meaning the middle part of that particular spring will compress first?
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Hey Scatt!
Scotty C
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Hey
Corsa_Scotty
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I sound irish when i say it
Kano
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Looks fine to me.. seen coils tighter than that..
Nick-S
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quote:
Originally posted by Scatt
But everyone with C's put B springs on
i havent
Planty02
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quote:
Originally posted by GSi_16v
quote:
Originally posted by Scatt
But everyone with C's put B springs on
i havent


same here when I had my C

For the cost of a set of proper springs I think I'd rather have piece of mind tbh

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