harrisp
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Im sooo bored of the lack of power and I was thinking about changing my engine for a 1.6... so whats involved?
Can I use my driveshafts? or do I need to use the driveshafts from a sport? or could I use my gearbox? (f15 iirc).
What about wiring? do I need to change the whole loom? is it all one i.e. even the back lights wiring?
anything else?
[Edited on 03-12-2008 by harrisp]
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harrisp
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Anyone?
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shaunmods
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I'd also interested to know this. Been offered a 1.6 16v engine but unsure at the moment 
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ali_corsa
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you need shafts from a 1.6 sport or gsi, fuel pump,calipers and carryers from a 1.6 or above engine box loom ecu transponder chip and the ring. i think you just change the engine loom nothing else, on your gearbox you can use one from your 1L but idealy you need one off a 1.6, inlet and exhaust manifolds as well off the 1.6
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Ryan
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i think 'pip304' is who you want to be talking to iirc.
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Mark B
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you dont need to change the driveshafts.think the wiring on a 1.0 and 1.2 is differnent?
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Rob E
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Easiest/probably cheapest way would be to find a written off 1.6 with rear end damage and swap engine, box, suspension, anti roll bars, wiring loom ecu etc
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by ali_corsa
you need shafts from a 1.6 sport or gsi, fuel pump,calipers and carryers from a 1.6 or above engine box loom ecu transponder chip and the ring. i think you just change the engine loom nothing else, on your gearbox you can use one from your 1L but idealy you need one off a 1.6, inlet and exhaust manifolds as well off the 1.6
Im confused, because If I can use my 1 litre box then I can still use my driveshafts etc surely? Would there be any problems with using my box, as it is under warranty so would like to keep it.
Ive already got 1.6 sport brakes, and my fuel pump is out of a 1.6 tigra.
Its more the wiring im bothered about.
Also what belt would I use as I wouldn't be using the power steering pump?
[Edited on 03-12-2008 by harrisp]
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ali_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
quote:
Originally posted by ali_corsa
you need shafts from a 1.6 sport or gsi, fuel pump,calipers and carryers from a 1.6 or above engine box loom ecu transponder chip and the ring. i think you just change the engine loom nothing else, on your gearbox you can use one from your 1L but idealy you need one off a 1.6, inlet and exhaust manifolds as well off the 1.6
Im confused, because If I can use my 1 litre box then I can still use my driveshafts etc surely? Would there be any problems with using my box, as it is under warranty so would like to keep it.
Ive already got 1.6 sport brakes, and my fuel pump is out of a 1.6 tigra.
Its more the wiring im bothered about.
Also what belt would I use as I wouldn't be using the power steering pump?
[Edited on 03-12-2008 by harrisp]
if i recall you need the outer bits of the shafts....you can use it but if you give the car stick constantly you will always be changing gear, this could also lead into a reduced top end mph wise as the ratio's within the gear box are completly different for a 1.6 and it might blow up, just depends if you are bothered about that really.
with the belts, you can get kits for them, i looked into this just say no air con or power steering and they will give you a belt
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by ali_corsa
quote:
Originally posted by harrisp
quote:
Originally posted by ali_corsa
you need shafts from a 1.6 sport or gsi, fuel pump,calipers and carryers from a 1.6 or above engine box loom ecu transponder chip and the ring. i think you just change the engine loom nothing else, on your gearbox you can use one from your 1L but idealy you need one off a 1.6, inlet and exhaust manifolds as well off the 1.6
Im confused, because If I can use my 1 litre box then I can still use my driveshafts etc surely? Would there be any problems with using my box, as it is under warranty so would like to keep it.
Ive already got 1.6 sport brakes, and my fuel pump is out of a 1.6 tigra.
Its more the wiring im bothered about.
Also what belt would I use as I wouldn't be using the power steering pump?
[Edited on 03-12-2008 by harrisp]
if i recall you need the outer bits of the shafts....you can use it but if you give the car stick constantly you will always be changing gear, this could also lead into a reduced top end mph wise as the ratio's within the gear box are completly different for a 1.6 and it might blow up, just depends if you are bothered about that really.
with the belts, you can get kits for them, i looked into this just say no air con or power steering and they will give you a belt
Ok thanks, so if I used the sport box I would need different driveshafts?
Sorry for all the questions.
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ali_corsa
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yea 1.6 shafts probly cost about £20 from scrap yard
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by ali_corsa
yea 1.6 shafts probly cost about £20 from scrap yard
Thanks,
Anymore on wiring anyone?
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daymoon
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ecu, engine loom? thats what i recon u will need.
probably u will need to get a strengthening kit?
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by daymoon
ecu, engine loom? thats what i recon u will need.
probably u will need to get a strengthening kit?
Won't need a strengthening kit as the shells are the same.
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ali_corsa
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i would change the cam belt water pump and clutch and release bearing before it goes in, as you have hardly any room to do them whilst the engine is in the car
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DaveyLC
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You can use your standard shafts. You can even use the standard F10 gearbox but I wouldnt suggest it 
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by ali_corsa
i would change the cam belt water pump and clutch and release bearing before it goes in, as you have hardly any room to do them whilst the engine is in the car
I will be doing mate thanks.
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
You can use your standard shafts. You can even use the standard F10 gearbox but I wouldnt suggest it
My gearbox is an f15.
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bryant
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im also going to be puting a 1.6 into a 1l would i have to change the engine mounts?? cheers
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by bryant
im also going to be puting a 1.6 into a 1l would i have to change the engine mounts?? cheers
The engine mount has to be changed I think but not the gearbox mount.
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bryant
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ok cheers mate
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