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Jambo
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17th Jan 09 at 11:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote


Got some polished 19"s to go on my car as i didnt like the current colour of my wheels. So took it to my local garage who are legends and look after me always.

They have a proper laser 4 wheel alignment thing now so when they where swopping tyres etc i said do the alignment for me. Now there was nothing wrong with how the car drove other than under acceleration it felt odd since i twatted a kerb few weeks before.

Since i got the car back the steering is 3x lighter, has less feel and is acting very strangely when driving. Hard to explain but its like the option to go straigh on is missing
Constantly having to correct the steering even doing 5mph in traffic, it seems the car goes left or right indiscrimintly and i have to counter the direction with the steering wheel

Looked at the report and its all "in spec"

So what the fook is wrong?

P.S I am unable to get to the garage untill next saturday, and they will charge to correct (not much but its still money and a drive to the next town)

From what i read on line the symptoms sound like it is "toe-ing out" too much, but its within spec?

Help

[Edited on 17-01-2009 by Jambo]
Ian
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17th Jan 09 at 11:52   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Larger wheels and new tracking will always feel different. Particularly if it was toeing in because of the knock and you've got used to that.
Jambo
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17th Jan 09 at 11:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the wheels are the same size as the ones i had just a different colour, tyres are the same etc.....

The knock was only for about 3-4weeks that i was driving on it (rear wheel) and the only difference was under hard acceleration and didnt affect the steering
X 60RSA
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17th Jan 09 at 12:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You could have bent something?

I know when i prnaged my corsa, everything looked fine but it just didnt drive correct. In this case i had twisted the shocker which messed all the camber up etc.

Do all of your wheels look pretty much central to the arch when looking from side on? Camber angles all ok?

Worth looking into by eye at first.
Jambo
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17th Jan 09 at 12:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah the alighnment includes camber and its all in spec.
sand-eel
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17th Jan 09 at 12:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

did they put the tyres back on the right way?
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17th Jan 09 at 13:00   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had the exact same problem as you Jambo, putting the 17's on the Ibiza made it very very obvious as well!

Turned out after 4 different garages (I've now found a very good one up by college) I had a bent track rod. £103 later and I've got a straight car again
deano87
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17th Jan 09 at 15:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've had 2 new tyres on my car. Fully balanced, tracked, and now my car is pulling to the left. Since took it back, they swapped the tyres around, re-tracked, and it's still doing it.

I reckon it's a conspiracy that they want us to munch through tyres quicker
Jambo
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17th Jan 09 at 15:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its not pulling either way, its hard to explain.

If ANY imperfection is in the road it will follow it, now before ppl say thats tramlining its not. It just needs a small amount of encouragement to go either way. So its constantly a small fight.

In some ways its better since its tracked i.e it gos better under hard acceleration (not that i do that sort of thing )

But its a small annoyance
VegasPhil
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17th Jan 09 at 15:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Happens to me too


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Jambo
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17th Jan 09 at 18:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

exact same thing Phill?
bieransri
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17th Jan 09 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sounds to me like the fronts arent parralel with the rears. yet its jus been done and in spec? odd one!
Fro
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17th Jan 09 at 18:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I know what you mean now, i get the exact same thing with the golf. Quite a few things it could be apparently too. Not sure with regards to your BM though.
deano87
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17th Jan 09 at 18:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by bieransri
sounds to me like the fronts arent parralel with the rears. yet its jus been done and in spec? odd one!


STS said that my rear beam was bent, as shown on the tracking machine. Thing is, it has been tracked loads of times before and never flagged up.

I'm waiting to see if my tyres really scrub out before I decide something is bent/worn.
gazza808
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17th Jan 09 at 18:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have exactly the same problem. Put it down to low front tyres now thinking my shock might be bent. Hmmm
Jordan C
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17th Jan 09 at 18:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Tyre Pressures being to high??

Failing that it sounds toe'd in to much!
RCS
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17th Jan 09 at 18:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What size of wheels is it meant to have standard?
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17th Jan 09 at 19:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

have you had it lowered?

i noticed my steering became light as there was more -camber placed on the front suspension.
Rob B
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17th Jan 09 at 19:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Checked the pressures, i bet any money theres 45 psi all round
Jambo
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17th Jan 09 at 22:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

true i havent checked my tyre pressures. I shall do that tommorow.

Wheels are standard OEM RCS.



Not lowered 100% standard
sand-eel
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17th Jan 09 at 23:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm sure this happened when I got the corsa done ages ago, it felt weird for a few days then got used to it, its probably because your so used to the previous setup.
Another thing was it the proper 4 wheel alignment or just tracking because 4 wheel alignment takes longer and usually costs about £100.
antnee
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17th Jan 09 at 23:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As said before, are the tyres the right way round? Mine were wrong for about 3/4weeks and I had similar problems to you.
Jambo
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18th Jan 09 at 10:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

will check tyres over today i have a psi guage thing.

Sand eel it was laser 4 wheel alighnment and took ages, it was £89 for 3 adjustments

 
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