Shane
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was listerning to the radio this morning and there talking about moving pills down to a class b, is this going to be another case like weed? moving it down a class, only to move it back again a couple of months later
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Sam
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No.
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drunkenfool
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Before anyone with no knowledge aside from the primary school view of "Just say no" comments on this thread, I highly suggest that you watch these two documentaries.
Peter Jennings, ecstacy rising
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1564288654365150131
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Is alcohol worse than ecstacy?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/drugs/
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drunkenfool
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PS - I vote an enthuiastic yes. I gave up all drugs in Jan 2006 and have no interest in taking any again if im honest, but I know that I will never rule out th efact tht I may do ecstacy again one day in my life if the perfect situation were to come about.
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dannymccann
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Must admit im one of the 'primary school' lot, and I say no 
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drunkenfool
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Originally posted by dannymccann
Must admit im one of the 'primary school' lot, and I say no
What is that opinion based on, though? Like I said, i went through the whole drug thing years ago and now dont touch a thing, in fact I have quite a negative view of certain drugs (especially cannabis) after my experience iwth them, but surely the fact that I still hold ecstacy in a much higer regard, even though I dont take it any more anyway, must say something?
[Edited on 11-02-2009 by drunkenfool]
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corsa - gus
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From experience of it I would say no to having it re-classified. It doesn't make a blind bit of difference to anyone if its class A or B. It will still be readily available and you will still suffer from taking it
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drunkenfool
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No drugs are actively good for you, granted, but neither is alcohol which is a drug just like all the others and is much more dangerous. Why is it ok for someone to go to a pub and get absolutely smashed on alcohol, yet you could technically go to prison for taking an ecstacy tablet? It got made illegal in the first place cos the government was worried that it was competition to their highly lucritive alcohol and the taxes that go along with it, when so many people were taking it without any problems at all.
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Brett
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Had some mint times on those things 
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Sam
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkenfool
It got made illegal in the first place cos the government was worried that it was competition to their highly lucritive alcohol and the taxes that go along with it, when so many people were taking it without any problems at all.
No it was never legal in the first place - ecstacy is illegal in all UN countries - and even in some non UN countries like Switzerland. Nothing to do with the government making money on it.
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
Had some mint times on those things
always stayed away from them tbh
altho my mates have always been into them 
they seemed to be having fun
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
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Originally posted by drunkenfool
It got made illegal in the first place cos the government was worried that it was competition to their highly lucritive alcohol and the taxes that go along with it, when so many people were taking it without any problems at all.
No it was never legal in the first place - ecstacy is illegal in all UN countries - and even in some non UN countries like Switzerland. Nothing to do with the government making money on it.
Of course it was legal in the firstplace! You think that someone synthesised the chemical and that there was already a law passed making it illegal before it even came into existance?! Idiot Just watch the documentaires i posted before making any more silly comments 
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Originally posted by XSIHardy
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
Had some mint times on those things
always stayed away from them tbh
altho my mates have always been into them
they seemed to be having fun
Only thing I didn't like was the way they make you look when you're on them really. Used to chew my face off sometimes.
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Shane
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Class A Ecstasy, LSD, heroin, cocaine, crack, magic mushrooms, amphetamines (if prepared for injection).
Up to seven years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.
Up to life in prison or an unlimited fine or both.
Class B Amphetamines, Cannabis, Methylphenidate (Ritalin), Pholcodine.
Up to five years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.
Up to 14 years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.
Class C Tranquilisers, some painkillers, Gamma hydroxybutyrate (GHB), Ketamine.
Up to two years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.
Up to 14 years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.
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Sam
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkenfool
Of course it was legal in the firstplace! You think that someone synthesised the chemical and that there was already a law passed making it illegal before it even came into existance?! Idiot
Yes - Misuse of Drugs Act 1971
Idiot 
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dannymccann
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I dont understand this classification shite, why isnt it just LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
If its legal, tax the fuck out of it and dont treat the retards that get hurt by using it.
If its illegal, confiscate, destroy it, prison up the people distributing it, destroy them  I dunno something of that nature
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Sam
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Originally posted by dannymccann
I dont understand this classification shite, why isnt it just LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
If its legal, tax the fuck out of it and dont treat the retards that get hurt by using it.
If its illegal, confiscate, destroy it, prison up the people distributing it, destroy them I dunno something of that nature
If you prosecuted everyone that ever did any form of drugs and put them in prison there would probably be more people in prison than on the outside!
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dannymccann
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[clarkson] You are correct to be honest, should just burn them all  [/clarkson]
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done md fair few times,not really my thing tbh but absoutley harmless drug.
People need education and the right education not propergander.
Not "drugs are bad, and will kill you"
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nova_gteuk
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Tbh ecstacy is the only drug i would do, probaly one of the safest.
The only reason people die from e's are if they drink to much water or not enough, if people where educated how to take them safely, there wouldnt be any death's at all.
Still amazes me that alchohol and smoking are the biggest killers yet there both legal?
Kinda proves against theyre argument drugs are illegal because they kill,its more like theyre to trying to control us.
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Hammer
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The whole classification system needs revamped; coke and ecstacy are on a different plain from heroin altogether.
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Tom
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
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Originally posted by XSIHardy
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
Had some mint times on those things
always stayed away from them tbh
altho my mates have always been into them
they seemed to be having fun
Only thing I didn't like was the way they make you look when you're on them really. Used to chew my face off sometimes.
And that metalic taste and twitchy head movements the day after I haven't touched ecstasy for a long while and I don't miss it in the slightest, it was good when I was young and clubbing and it did something to me, the fact everyone stopped taking pills and started taking coke meant getting good pills was more difficult, regardless I wouldn't be doing them anymore anyway.
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Personally, never tried them and never really interested me, but one of my mates did alot of stuff (from what i remember weed, ecstasy, coke, LSD, mushrooms and heroin whilst at uni) but tbh they way he looked and acted all the time was awful compared to what he used to be like. He was always off his head no matter what time of the day, no matter where he was. Im not saying everyone is like that btw!
Myself and all his mates tried to get him off it (as it was ruining him and his family) and he did about 1 year later, but now is a completely different person to what he was. Hardly anyone sees or hears of him now, and never answers the door if you go round to see him. He was the only one in the group of mates that did it, but we all tried our best to be there for him etc and not judge him for what he did.
But tbh, never tried it, never wanted to, never interested me whatsoever and maybe it should just stay where it is
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leave it as it is
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