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--ToM--
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   3rd Mar 09 at 16:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right the old threads getting confusing now so heres the problem....

Car turns over but wont fire i removed the king lead from the coil and turned it over and it was getting a spark.... put the king lead back onto the dizzy and hey presto it fired up!!

It ran sweet for abouttttt 10 seconds then began hunting and idling upto 2k and down so low that it cut out.... after it cut out i tried to restart but it wouldnt.. i removed the king lead again which was still sparking tried to fire up agen but it just turned over no joy.

I just went outside again to see if the the king lead was saprking but the dizzy wasnt and now theres no spark at all from the dizzy or the coil ...

Its like the coil doesnt permantly give a spark its only doing it when it feels like it but theres got to be something thats causing it to do that and i dont know what.

cant under stand it at all any help will be much appreciated 1 as im fcuking pissed off with it beyond words and 2 i need to get to work lol.

[Edited on 03-03-2009 by --ToM--]
DaveB
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3rd Mar 09 at 16:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Old thread isn't getting confused. Starting another one is confusing!

As I've said, replace the fuel pump relay and/or crank sensor. They are the only things that really affect the spark. (as long as you know the coil is a good one!)
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3rd Mar 09 at 16:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its got a new crank sensor on it so ill do the fuel pump relay and see where that gets me
evans_corsab
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3rd Mar 09 at 16:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the points in the dizzy set properly ? in college the other day we could make it idle up and down by turning the actual dizzy its self . when you took the old dizzy off did it like corkscrew off ?
Torsa g
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3rd Mar 09 at 17:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

there a set timig spark on these engines from standard,
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3rd Mar 09 at 17:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so its ok to just whack a new dizzy n bolt it straight on? isnt it only the early cvas etc that had adjustable dizzys
DaveB
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3rd Mar 09 at 17:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how will replacing the dizzy help, if you don't have a spark at the end of the king lead ffs?
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3rd Mar 09 at 17:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nooooo iv already replaced the dizzy i was just checkin that there was no specific way to put it on and that its just a case of bolting it on
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3rd Mar 09 at 17:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

someone just said it could be to do with control temp sensor what ever that is?
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3rd Mar 09 at 19:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

paperclipped it and nothings come up??
marklawton
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3rd Mar 09 at 20:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

as said before on msn mate, change the fuel pump relay, should be in the engine bay on yours. will only take you 2 mins to change over
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3rd Mar 09 at 23:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Possible Causes i think could be

Fucked Coil/Coil Amplifier
Shit Earths on the engine,
Coolant Temp Sensor
Crank Sensor.
Air Flow Meter

possibly a few others but would check those first.
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5th Mar 09 at 17:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

today i put a load of new breather pipes on around the inlet and throttle body area also put a different set of injectors on it and checked all the earths on the loom and cleaned and tightened them up fitted a new coolant temp sensor aswell and it fires up!!!!!!! so now it seems to be starting ok but it wont idle you have to rev it up to keep it running and it missfires a bit too any ideas guys?? other than scrap it ha ha
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5th Mar 09 at 19:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Mikey_j
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5th Mar 09 at 19:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

idle control valve
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5th Mar 09 at 19:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

going to put one on it tommorow aswell as a new air flow meter any other suggestions as ill do it all in the one day guys
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6th Mar 09 at 09:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Engine management light on? (does it even work?)
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it does work but its not on
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6th Mar 09 at 11:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Unplug the AFM and see if it'll idle that way?

When mine went it wouldnt idle atall with it plugged in but would unplugged, although it was very rough!
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6th Mar 09 at 14:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just established the reason it wasnt sparking was because the theink with the black plug and the red and blue wires that go to the coil is fooked so swapping that over as we speak aswell as sorting out the idling situation next
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jus broke the spare coil amplifier i was using to get it to spark any ideas of prices on new ones of these?

 
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