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mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 20:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

right im 90% of the wqay to getting a remap now, my only worries are the weak links like the standard turbo and clutch, will they really handle the extra 50+bhp and 50 more ft/lbs?

how can I look after them more, the standard 18k service interval will be ditched for 8 - 10k oil changes.

the clutch is a dual mass I have no idea what that means but it sounds expensive
Twiggy
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22nd Mar 09 at 20:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is it 130 std? extra 50 bhp will kill it in no time imo. I would upgrade the clutch before remap.
mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 20:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah its 130, LOTS on fiatforum are mapped to between 180 - 200, I wouldnt be happy with 200, I want 180ish

Fro
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22nd Mar 09 at 20:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do you mean the flywheel is dual mass?

I can only comment based on golfs a Dual mass flywheel is expensive so most people modify a g60 one to fit. Not sure on how much the fiat ones are though but i can't see it wrecking the flywheel.

The clutches on the golf diesels have a tendency to start slipping after a remap but most of them have done onsiderably more than 18k.

Doubt I've helped you much at all tbh
Gareth
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22nd Mar 09 at 20:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my clutch went within 10k after a revo
mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 20:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im on 45k

[Edited on 22-03-2009 by mattk]
Fro
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22nd Mar 09 at 20:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
im on 45k

[Edited on 22-03-2009 by mattk]


I'm tired
mattk
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Stu
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A bit of mechanical sympathy and Im sure it will be fine y'know!! You dont have to kill it everywhere. The extra oomph will only be used now and again really, its the midrange and driveability that will improve so wringing its neck to the limiter for ever horse power wont be necessary!

You will be fine!!!
Jambo
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22nd Mar 09 at 20:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dont drive it
mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its never really ragged anyway, I dont really go over 3k in it, yesterdays RR printout shows it makes most at 3500,

is the clutch only under strain when setting off? I dont really do drag starts cause 1st is shit, I only want the power for 3rd and 4th gear over taking and joining motorways
mwg
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whats other peoples experience on the Fiat forum? They might say its not a problem.

I've gone through all this and I'm too bothered about the clutch with all the extra torque.

[Edited on 22-03-2009 by Matty G]
Colin
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
Its never really ragged anyway, I dont really go over 3k in it.



Why bother with a remap then?
mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

one person hes a member off here had a catastrophic faliure of his turbo and thus his engine, he was nly 1 of many, no one else has said a bad word

they all buzz off the better driveability, smoother delivery better MPG ect
mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its never "ragged" its reved to where the power is the firs time it ever touched the limiter in my posession was on saturday on the dyno
Nic Barnes
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

park it in garage and get the bus. prolongs the life of it greatly.
mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its a car to be used, not one of them freshly painted ones that gets locked away
P1CK4D
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If you want to use and drive the car then no you can't prolong the life of a turbo and clutch
mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tut you know what I mean
P1CK4D
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
tut you know what I mean


Drive sensibly, and obviously the less use the better.
Mike
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Use the old northern philosophy...















































Be reet
mattk
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D
quote:
Originally posted by mattk
tut you know what I mean


Drive sensibly, and obviously the less use the better.

thats better

you know Im lacking that concept Mike

insurance too Ive managed to throw that to the back of my mind, fuck them off
mwg
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I know you are meant to but I wouldn't tell insurance about a remap. Bugger it, they cant see it and you'd be very unlucky for them to find out it had it
Adam_B
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22nd Mar 09 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get it done Matt, if it starts slipping sell it
andy1868
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22nd Mar 09 at 22:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i'm with mike

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