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Mobby
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22nd Jun 09 at 11:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I want to try and eliminate understeer on my corsa as one of the last mods.

Current spec is:
lowered all round on 60mm gmax springs and dampers
goodyear eagle f1's all round 45
rear arb through the beam
front arb ( diametre unknown but its a standard sxi one)

The car does handle great imo for a corsa, but what else can be done.

Everyone has different ways which is confusing

[Edited on 22-06-2009 by mobby]
IvIarkgraham
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22nd Jun 09 at 11:13   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

better suspension better tires
remove front arb
slow down a bit
P1CK4D
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
Current spec is:
lowered all round on 60mm gmax springs and coilovers


How on earth did you end up with that set up?
Mobby
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22nd Jun 09 at 11:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

better tyres?

I cant see how bilstein will reduce Understeer
Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
Current spec is:
lowered all round on 60mm gmax springs and coilovers


How on earth did you end up with that set up?

My heads fucked up like that, i say words i dont eve realise.
P1CK4D
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
I cant see how bilstein will reduce Understeer


And where the fuck did you pluck that from? No one has even mentioned it
andyc1234
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22nd Jun 09 at 11:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get better sus i had the gmax coilies and swapped them for a set of billies the difference is untrue and get a rear arb on it
DAZ1985
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22nd Jun 09 at 11:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Tire pressures make a difference
Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
I cant see how bilstein will reduce Understeer


And where the fuck did you pluck that from? No one has even mentioned it
blistein are better than gmax, put 2 and 2 together.


Im currently running 29psi up front and 31 on the back with a 1.8 engine

[Edited on 22-06-2009 by mobby]
Ojc
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22nd Jun 09 at 11:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have a proper setup done with a much better suspension.

The way the Corsa is designed is to make it oversteer to be on the safe side.
Dan295
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Have a proper setup done with a much better suspension.

The way the Corsa is designed is to make it oversteer to be on the safe side.


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Ojc
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Sorry I meant understeer, I was reading something else at the time.
DAZ1985
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surely if u had a rear arb and lifted off in the corner would help but be quick as it may catch you out

i've heard left foot braking may help too
P1CK4D
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Wearing a gimp suit and a helmet also helps ive found.
Stu
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Unless your using it for track, stick with your understeer!!!

Nothing worse than a twitchy road car you are using every day! My S14a was a day to day car and was proper oversteery, caught me out so many times! My TVR was worse BUT it was a weekend toy so when it got driven I was focussed!!!
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Its a FWD car not much you can do about it
mattk
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sell it and buy a 182
andy1868
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shut off mid-corner and watch it oversteer

LSD should help matters too?

[Edited on 22-06-2009 by andy1868]
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22nd Jun 09 at 12:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Stiffer rear springs, softer front springs, adjustable top mounts with a smaller castor angle, more front camber (depends how much the car rolls).
antnee
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Make it RWD
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Try and save some weight on the front end.
I'm sure that 1.8 is a heavy lump.
Mattb
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22nd Jun 09 at 13:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Tie Bar spacers.. had them on my corsa - they were ace..

also consider adjustable top mounts, dial in a little more negative camber
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22nd Jun 09 at 13:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get a car with independant rear suspension. Handles so much better.
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swap the pressures to abput 32 front 30 rear on those 45 profiles. then you want to stiffen the rear end up but it will become more tail happy. i set of 2 1/4" motorsport springs should fit in the back i recon.

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