Tiger
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And if they didnt, why the hell are they putting VAT back up from January? Unemployment is increasing daily to record levels and I don't see things getting any better?
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Marc
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If you don't like British recessions...
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Tommy L
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VAT was always only going to be year at 15% then it would go back to 17.5%
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Daimo B
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You wait, it'll go to 20% you watch 
They have to make back their money somehow. Give it a few months..
Has no-one noticed the steady increase in fuel costs already....
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Tiger
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Originally posted by corsa_tomtom
VAT was always only going to be year at 15% then it would go back to 17.5%
I thought it would be as long as people are struggling to be fair. If things would have been even worse than they are now, would they still have put it up.
They were laughing and joking in parliment, I just watched it on the news. If its such a big joke, why does'nt he pack his bags and fuck off?
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Tiger
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You wait, it'll go to 20% you watch
They have to make back their money somehow. Give it a few months..
Has no-one noticed the steady increase in fuel costs already....
Yeah, best bit is, fuel per barrel has gone from $100 to $80! Work that fucker out!!
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Yep, can't wait to see fuel price when it goes up again.
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Tommy L
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Originally posted by VXR
You wait, it'll go to 20% you watch
I wouldn't be surprised one bit
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ed
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The VAT break was only meant for a set period as a set amount of money was put aside for it. I guess it wasn't the most effective plan, otherwise it would have been extended like the scrappage scheme? Or perhaps the scrappage scheme has more benefits over getting people to buy more crap they don't need.
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Tiger
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Originally posted by DannyB
Yep, can't wait to see fuel price when it goes up again.
Whoever supports this sham that we call a government should be ashamed of themselves. I'm not saying any one else is any better or ever will be. I'm just saying that this daylight blatent robbery from the taxpaying people of this country is a disgrace.
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It's not like they have much of a choice. I'd love to see what a lot of the complainers would do in a situation like this. They can't please everyone and they have impossible decisions to make. I have opinions, but rather them than me.
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Tiger
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The scrappage scheme is a load of twot, why can't people see that its just a government part ex scheme like all your garages offer. The fact is the cars are overpriced as it is.
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Cosmo
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The recession is measured by a set amount of variables, which are applicable world wide, its not just a UK thing. Once spending increases to certain levels, job losses fall, housing market increases, etc. etc. then they all add up to a recovering economy.
And does that 2.5% really matter to you? On a £100 product its an extra £2.50, even on a grand its only £25.
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Tiger
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The people that get in power were always going to get in anyway, they've always been members of the Bilderberg Group, through history.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Tiger
The scrappage scheme is a load of twot, why can't people see that its just a government part ex scheme like all your garages offer. The fact is the cars are overpriced as it is.
Scrappage scheme was a great idea imo, loads of people owned cars that were worth a hell of a lot less than £2000 and it persuaded them to trade up and spend money, money that has stimulated the economy in a big way.
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Tiger
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Originally posted by Cosmo
The recession is measured by a set amount of variables, which are applicable world wide, its not just a UK thing. Once spending increases to certain levels, job losses fall, housing market increases, etc. etc. then they all add up to a recovering economy.
And does that 2.5% really matter to you? On a �100 product its an extra �2.50, even on a grand its only �25.
I'm thinking of the bigger picture. If it was that insignificant, they wouldn't have done it.
[Edited on 18-11-2009 by Tiger]
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Tommy L
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And does that 2.5% really matter to you? On a £100 product its an extra £2.50, even on a grand its only £25.
I suppose to most people it doesn't really matter. But there will be a few out there that will benefit from it. Can't say I've noticed it or say i'm better off
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Originally posted by Tiger
The scrappage scheme is a load of twot, why can't people see that its just a government part ex scheme like all your garages offer. The fact is the cars are overpriced as it is.
The car scrappage scheme was to boost the new car market, i thought? I don't think it's a load of twot as I'm sure you could haggle the price of the cars with the dealer and if you are getting 2k for your £100 banger i think you're doing well.
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Tiger
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Tiger
The scrappage scheme is a load of twot, why can't people see that its just a government part ex scheme like all your garages offer. The fact is the cars are overpriced as it is.
Scrappage scheme was a great idea imo, loads of people owned cars that were worth a hell of a lot less than �2000 and it persuaded them to trade up and spend money, money that has stimulated the economy in a big way.
Its all part of a bigger scheme, they want the old cars off the road to make up the numbers for a 'greener' britain, the fact is you can pollute the rivers on purpose, say its an accident and get a slapped wrist.
The garage down the road from me offers £2000 for any car you part ex., thats not even in the scrappage scheme. Doesnt mean your getting a good deal does it!
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Cosmo
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It is insignificant, it was more a marketing thing than anything else.
Stupid people think 'Ah great, VAT is down and I can make a great saving', when if they actually thought and worked it out the savings being made werent really any great amount.
Christ it was so little we didnt even bother changing our prices at all, so we ended up making an extra 2.5% per item.
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Tommy L
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That's a point, i wonder how many businesses just upped their prices by 2.5%  You would never know as it would be such a small increase you wouldn't be able to tell
[Edited on 18-11-2009 by corsa_tomtom]
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Tiger
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Tiger
The scrappage scheme is a load of twot, why can't people see that its just a government part ex scheme like all your garages offer. The fact is the cars are overpriced as it is.
Scrappage scheme was a great idea imo, loads of people owned cars that were worth a hell of a lot less than �2000 and it persuaded them to trade up and spend money, money that has stimulated the economy in a big way.
Its all part of a bigger scheme, they want the old cars off the road to make up the numbers for a 'greener' britain, the fact is you can pollute the rivers on purpose, say its an accident and get a slapped wrist.
The garage down the road from me offers £2000 for any car you part ex., thats not even in the scrappage scheme. Doesnt mean your getting a good deal does it!
Did they prior to the scrappage scheme though?
And thats one place, this is now nationwide and stimulated the new car market in a big way, saved a load of jobs in car manufacturing, and therefore kept more people off benefits and spending hard earned cash in the economy.
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Tiger
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If it was marketing though, do they REALLY think we're that stupid to go "Fuck they dropped VAT from 17.5 to 15% - i'm gonna be so much better off!"
It probably didnt even affect people on benefits, the people that DO need the money (or the people that are scrounging lazy fuckers.)
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Cosmo
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That's a point, i wonder how many businesses just upped their prices by 2.5%
We left ours as they were when it went down, and we will put the prices up in Jan, so in reality we'll of increased prices by approx 5% without anyone batting an eyelid.
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Tiger
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Did they prior to the scrappage scheme though?
And thats one place, this is now nationwide and stimulated the new car market in a big way, saved a load of jobs in car manufacturing, and therefore kept more people off benefits and spending hard earned cash in the economy.
Yeah! All the garages round here do it! Have done as long as I can remember!
[Edited on 18-11-2009 by Tiger]
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