Dan295
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Just sourced me a set, just wondering on fitment, research says its trial and error but others say the circlip needs to be moved inwards by 6 millimetres? anyone have any experience and shed a bit of light  from a calibra into xe corsa.
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Nic Barnes
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i just fitted them as they are
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DAZ1985
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
i just fitted them as they are
snap
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Dan295
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winner, although that was into a F28, but hopefully they are the same length, using big block hubs yarrrrr
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Nic Barnes
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yeah you use same shafts for f28 so cant see why it would be different?
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davieslim
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when i fitted mines the long shaft went straight on but the short shaft i had to move the circlip in 7mm
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Terry12
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quote:
Originally posted by davieslim
when i fitted mines the long shaft went straight on but the short shaft i had to move the circlip in 7mm
Same here, But I did space my gearbox.
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Nic Barnes
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my gearbox is spaced.
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Terry12
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my gearbox is spaced.
I thought I remember you saying you didn't bother spacing your gearbox?
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Terry12
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Correction I see you only recently fitted a spacer.
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Nic Barnes
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yep. i know loads of people who use them in corsa and tigra's and none of them have moved the circlip groove at all. thats why i just banged them in. its had a lot of abuse and i cant say ive noticed any issues.
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Terry12
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I fitted mine without moving the groove and did notice the leg was pushed out more than it should be, Camber looked crap on that side.
Wasn't hard to do, Just lopped off a bit of the shaft and moved the groove back the same amount as I removed.
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Dan295
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 cheers Nic thats some good news and cheers Terry i know what to do if it doesnt work now
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
I fitted mine without moving the groove and did notice the leg was pushed out more than it should be, Camber looked crap on that side.
how is that possible?
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Terry12
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Beats me, I built the car up and sat it back on it's wheels. The nearside wheel was tucked in at the bottom.
After modding the shaft they're now both the same.
Edited for clarity.
[Edited on 24-11-2009 by Terry12]
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Nic Barnes
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i just cant see that happening or even how thats possible. im maybe wrong as i dont know a great deal about the effects of driveshaft length on camber as its not something ive ever came across or heard of before.
just the way the hub, ball joint, tie bar etc all attach i cant see at all how it can. as i say, im more than likely wrong though.
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Terry12
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I know like me you assume the lower arm actually keeps the wheel in the correct place.
There definitely was a problem with the camber with the full length shaft.
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Nic Barnes
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id really like to know how and if anyone can explain this as i just dont understand.
if everything attached the same way, and all tight, i dont see that being true.
explanations anyone?
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Terry12
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Right, With the longer shaft the wheel was fixed at the bottom by the lower balljoint but the top of the wheel was being pushed out.
Exactly how and why I do not know, All I can comment on is experience which both me and my mate noticed the car had toe in with the standard shaft.
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Nic Barnes
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ok thanks.
edit, arent toe and camber completely different? which one was it that was affected? if it was toe, then did you try and adjust the track rod end at all?
[Edited on 24-11-2009 by Nic Barnes]
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Olsrey
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Terry almost everyone I've seen has fitted the long shaft without any problems. It's usually the short shaft (Passenger side) that causes people problems . . .
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Jamie_Hastings1
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quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
Right, With the longer shaft the wheel was fixed at the bottom by the lower balljoint but the top of the wheel was being pushed out.
Exactly how and why I do not know, All I can comment on is experience which both me and my mate noticed the car had toe in with the standard shaft.
Maybe the shaft castle nut wasn't or couldn't be tightend enough and it affected the camber.
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Terry12
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
ok thanks.
edit, arent toe and camber completely different? which one was it that was affected? if it was toe, then did you try and adjust the track rod end at all?
[Edited on 24-11-2009 by Nic Barnes]
Sorry I was tinking of something else then. lol
It was camber which was affected, The top of the wheel was pretty close to touching the arch the camber was out that bad.
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Terry12
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Originally posted by Olsrey
Terry almost everyone I've seen has fitted the long shaft without any problems. It's usually the short shaft (Passenger side) that causes people problems . . .
It is the N/S shaft I had problems with, when I said long shaft I meant uncut shaft as opposed to the one I cut down.
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Nic Barnes
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im completely unclear at anything you have written now. seem to just contradict the whole time.
can you clarify what shaft it was that you had a problem with and was it camber issue or toe issue? and did you measure the camber or just guessing? as sometimes a wheel toe in or out can mistakenly look like camber when it isnt to an untrained person.
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