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Corsa_Sport21
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14th Dec 09 at 21:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As above.

Any1 driven one of know much about them??Are the VVC's as notorious for HG failure and is it a cunt of a job to do??At what mileage do the HG's give up??

Do they handle crap with it being mid engined/rwd/SWB??

I know they are a tad girly but the GF would be using it mostly and i quite like them.
P1CK4D
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How easy is it to get parts for MG's now?
Corsa_Sport21
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14th Dec 09 at 21:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

2nd hand or brand new??
philrussell81
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hg every 40k ish

use a metal lotus one when they go
Adam_B
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yes, anywhere from 1-100k miles.

No, they handle crap because Rover are cheapskates and its a metro floorpan turned round.

You can still get some stuff fairly easily like service bits etc but things that are not supposed to break you will have to get to your local breakers.

MX5 Can be had for a bit more money and is a billion times better and slightly less gay if your bothered about that sort of thing.
Joe
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14th Dec 09 at 21:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Would never own one, horrible horrible little things.
Corsa_Sport21
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Do the HG's just go out of the blue or do they give any warning signs 1st??

Ive been offered a swap for my Prelude.The MGF has 35k on the clock.My Prelude is up for £1k as it has no MOT but its worth quite a bit more with a years ticket.
The MGF's in decent condition seem to go for no bad money.

Is it an engine out job to do the HG??
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14th Dec 09 at 21:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Uncles missus has one, she's had it for 5 years, it's on its 4th HG under their ownership

According to him its a bit of a cunt to do the HG Change as the Engine sits offset from the access hatch, so it isn't all easily accessible.

[Edited on 14-12-2009 by djgritt]
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i bought one on finance about 4yrs ago (trophy 160 version in trophy yellow), she was on a Y plate, had done 20k from new with fsh.. paid 7k for it also

my opinion on the car.... biggest pile of shit i ever owned, yea it looked nice but everything fucked up on it.
headgasket went after two weeks of ownership, then electrics all went on the one side of the car, then the central locking packed up, then suspension dropped 2inches on the one side. this was all in about 4months. i got fed up with it and cancelled my finiance payments and told them to reposses it as i couldnt sell it nor afford to fix it.

[Edited on 14-12-2009 by ~willow~]
Adam_B
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Just keep your prelude, if their willing to swap what does that tell you?
MarkSport
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I was looking for one a few months back.The vvc engine ISN'T known for head gasket issues as it isn't the k-series engine.It's the n series with stronger gaskets and so on.The only reason the engines were renoun for HGF was due to the water jackets on the engine being out of line.any engine will need a headgasket change with the major 60k service.after that it shouldn't need changing.Fairly easy job to do as most people worry you have to drop the engine....NOT THE CASE...

just simply undo the roof panel (about 10 8mm bolt) and take the panel off.the whole engine is then visable



I nearly bought this one....so close.

Hope this helps

[Edited on 14-12-2009 by MarkSport]
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quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D
How easy is it to get parts for MG's now?


Parts are available still as you have to have a 10 year catalogue of parts..The chinese who took over mg though re produced them so parts are never ending...
deano87
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
any engine will need a headgasket change with the major 60k service.after that it shouldn't need changing.

You mean any Rover/MG engine right?
MarkSport
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quote:
Originally posted by deano87
quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
any engine will need a headgasket change with the major 60k service.after that it shouldn't need changing.

You mean any Rover/MG engine right?


Nope,Only reason mg/rover engines fall loose of the HGF status is due to people ragging shit out of them from cold and the jacket jackets being out of line from the factory as said up a few posts...It's a shame really because i still believe they are a future classic
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You also believe every car should have the headgasket changed at 60k service.

I think you're wrong on both counts.
MarkSport
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It's what they suggest for a healthy engine.Obviously if it dont need doing,dont do it but thats when the cambelt change is advised so i'd personally do it then
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waste of time and money changing a head gasket if its not gone imo.
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old man has a mgf 1.8vvc, pretty quick tbh!
its in bits atm due to hgf but nice little motor (bit gay but oh well!)
its not really a waste of time cos when they go you can get more problems then its worth

[Edited on 14-12-2009 by Gav8v]
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The handling is very very poor from what I have been told. I'm going to be biased and say buy an MX5. Who cares about the people who brand you as a hairdresser. Until they drive one they wont understand how much fun they really are
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
It's what they suggest for a healthy engine.

Who is 'they'?
MarkSport
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quote:
Originally posted by tom_simes
quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
It's what they suggest for a healthy engine.

Who is 'they'?


mg/r

cambelt change every 60k (hg- upyo you)
oil change + spark plugs every 60k
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Good light weight engine hence why they use/used them in caterham 7's they tend to make more power than the 143bhp quoted, quite tunable too!! later MGf's dont have the hydro gas suspension so they handle alrite!! dont be put off just have a good check over on it !
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Cheers for the pointers and help folks.I am going to consider it and have a good check over it etc.If all is well then i will probably go for it.Try everything once is what i say.If its a bag o shite that keeps breaking i will just sell it on.

@ Adam.I cant seem to get interest in my Prelude,even with MOT.Its one of the cheapest for sale with the spec it has,i think people are put off with the auto/tiptronic though.

@ Marksport.Its a K series in the Mk1.It wasnt until the MG TF came out that it was changed to the N series with the different dowels(k series had the nylon dowels).
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
quote:
Originally posted by tom_simes
quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
It's what they suggest for a healthy engine.

Who is 'they'?


mg/r

cambelt change every 60k (hg- upyo you)
oil change + spark plugs every 60k

Oil change every 60k get away
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by philwestwood
hg every 40k ish

use a metal lotus one when they go


Or land rover.

The MGTF is an ok car, the MGF is AWFUL! Both have a chassis based on a metro but the MGF still has the hydrogas suspension!

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