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Rob B
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29th Dec 09 at 15:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hey guys,

I'm looking at getting one of these go to and from uni and a general day to day car with a bit of poke. Sold my Type R as i was getting about 25 - 28 mpg with all the mods done to it so it just wasn't economical enough for the 50 mile a day drive.

I know alot of you on here have alot of VAG knowledge so really i'm wandering..

What BHP can i get it upto with bolt on modifications and a rough price to say get it to 220bhp or 260 bhp
What MPG i should expect 80% motorway 20% round town
Do they handle well ?

Sorry for the tiny picture, this is the model i'm looking at? Would get the Cupra R but would rather save the extra 2k they are.



Cheers Rob
CORSA NUT
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29th Dec 09 at 15:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I could see no reason to have one of these over a 182 Rob Turbo cars will fuck you over on petrol especially when modded.
Fro
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29th Dec 09 at 15:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Same engine as in my Golf (AUQ). It has the KO3s turbo so will map to 210-220 max which should do you a sub 15 1/4. anything over that and you need to consider a bigger turbo.

Average mpg for me is usually aboud 29 and thats with hardly any motorway. With 80% motorway you should get in the 30's easily even when mapped.

I think the suspension was the same as my golf when it was standard - nothing special but handles better than the lower classes. if you can get a set of springs on there i've heard it will transform it alot. ( -50mm springs and the shocks will cope fine as they are shortened over standard, but you may get ARB issues. I'm lower than this and mine isn't rubbing but some peoples have.)

Usual VAG 1.8t probs i.e coil packs/climate control fans.

Engine wise i've only ever had one coil pack go and thats it.

Bit of a ramble but hope it's helped in someway.
andys sxi
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29th Dec 09 at 15:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

as said they will go to 210 220bhp from just a remap, a lad i know as the older model to the 1 your looking at and he said his is thirsty doing town driving,

if your doing 50miles a day would you consider a fast diesel and get it remapped?


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Fro
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29th Dec 09 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Tats a good shout tbh mapped Golf GT TDI 150 or the equiv in the leon will be nippy and get you very mpg.
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29th Dec 09 at 15:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah, Get the Diesel one

Did you buy a bora or am I imagining things?


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Fad
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29th Dec 09 at 16:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes I think the PD150 Leon is such a good shout.

Went to view a car with jr and some guy had one on Ohlins....proper little sleeper!
Rob B
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29th Dec 09 at 16:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have a bora TDi 115 bhp now and it's boring and it loves limp mode, plus it looks like a grandad car

So was going to get a leon which is a nice 5 seater and fingers crossed out of boost i was hoping it would be good on fuel. What else is a good idea for around 5 - 6k.

I've got a 306 rallye as a track car so no need for anything like a 182, want something fast in a straight line
jr
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29th Dec 09 at 16:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wheres the civic gone

tbh rob if its just for day to day why not buy something that doesnt eat fuel
andys sxi
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29th Dec 09 at 16:45   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im sure you could get a leon cupra R 225 for the money you have got to spend your best joining seatcupra.net and ask what they are like on there

if i was doing that many miles a day i would be looking at getting a diesel


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Rob B
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I hate the diesel i have now and they have alot of problems with sticking turbo vains etc, i can't be bothered with it, i only have to do that 50 mile trip 6 times a month
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29th Dec 09 at 17:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Got ur U2u rob..

For a start you need to ask on SCN rather than here tbh..

Also to get the 240bhp Mark you k03s on a stage 2 map will be fine...But if you want something for 260-280bhp then a k04 setup would be Fine Bolt on infact...

As for the fuel comment i get 38mpg on a motorway run and 29mpg around town so around 400miles to a tank
c4rsa-sport
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i have a LCR and im on stage 2 map its just under 300bhp and as for MPG round town i can average around 22mpg and on a long run im gettin around 27/28mpg.

Part of the good mpg is also to do with which kind of map you have done
DaNnY_LaD
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29th Dec 09 at 17:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by c4rsa-sport
Part of the good mpg is also to do with which kind of map you have done


Yeah Progressive & Aggressive...

Progressive Map: Jabbasport,P-torque,AMD
Aggressive Map: Revo,APR,Custom-code

Tbh Im going for a APR map as they are the best around tbh...Millions Spent on devolpment And Revo is basically C-C..
Nick A
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I have a MK4 ibiza Cupra 180T with a Revo Map (stage1 ), uprated DV, panel filter and induction pipe, i havent had in RR but guessing 220bhp.

Maps can be tailored to your driving style, as said some maps can improve mpg considerably.

As the car I think they are very good
Dione J
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29th Dec 09 at 19:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have a black 2004 180 Cupra, only 1 owner since new love it & I have done a few mods to it.

Cant fault it, only been through two coil packs.

Standard Cupra suspension is OK, lower than normal Leon's but doesnt handle great. Since lowering minethe car feels alot more planted & more confident when driving!

MPG isnt that bad to be honest, I get around 28MPG town driving and lots more on motorway, but I have noticed since changing it to Optimax after the first week of ownership I get more MPG

Really good engine, cant wait to get a P-Torque remap, get yourself on SCN (seatcupra.net)
antnee
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29th Dec 09 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

O god, don't get me started on P-torque
Dione J
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29th Dec 09 at 21:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why ant whats up with them?
antnee
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Why ant whats up with them?


Will who runs it is a lying cunt, shit mapper. Blew up 3 or 4 peoples hybrid turbo's from shit mapping and wouldn't take any responsibility. All the results after a map he does is not worth his effort (although he probably just prints it off from file anyway), they make fuck all torque but loads of bhp
Gez G
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I've got an Octavia VRS (same engine) and MPG varies from low 20s about town to mid -high 30s on the motorway.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Dione J
Why ant whats up with them?


Will who runs it is a lying cunt, shit mapper. Blew up 3 or 4 peoples hybrid turbo's from shit mapping and wouldn't take any responsibility. All the results after a map he does is not worth his effort (although he probably just prints it off from file anyway), they make fuck all torque but loads of bhp


Amen to that....My mate was one of them and the turbo setup they fitted and mapped was horrible..
Rob B
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to K04 the cupra would it just be the turbo i'd need or various other things, i'm just waying up i can get a cupra R for about 6.5 - 7k with 60k miles ish, or get a cupra for about 5.5k with 6k miles.

The cupra R is tempting, just really need to know what i'd need to do to the cupra if i want more speed.

Shouldn't really be doing this as i have a 305 rallye for a track car

Also, why are there practically no diesel leon cupras for sale!
big eck
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If you can stretch it mate go for the LCR over the cupra. Much better engnine to start with, handle superb as standard for a big motor and will reach 270bhp with just a simple map and uprated panel filter.

Plus they look the nuts in standard trim, one of the best lookin cars out there imo
Fro
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You get brembo's with the LCR too I believe.
big eck
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Oh aye forgot about that small detail

Best standard brakes by far on any car i've driven.

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